Natalee Case Discussion #719 2/02 - 2/03/08

[AZLady]

Actually, the article says: Deejay Laurens Trimp and organizer tortures Eshrik pontificaal with him went on the photograph.  So, I think the two men in the photo with Joran are Deejay Laurens Trimp and Eshrik (whoever they are).  It is interesting though that the older man to whom Joran confessed is Aruban.

Could this be Eshrik?

http://www.thorgolucky.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=192&sid=4c35e26a6c44aaea01dbe8f1dcebaf38

Online gaming clan and loony bin

oookaaayyy...sounds just like someone Joran would like.

[private eye]

All that matters is Beth loves him and feels comfortable. I am probably like Robot, I'd like to see him kick some ass:)))))))))

Let's put it this way.  Would you feel more comfortable if Joe Tacopina was the one helping Beth.

You know that is pretty low:)))))))))))))But convincing,,,,,,,,,,

[Anna]

I agree, Mrs Red, the only way the Kalpoes weren't involved in it is if Joran is so primitive he killed her before they had the chance.  The intent was certainly there.

[AZLady]

Absolutely Deepak was involved.  He was even there the night the Holloway-Twitty's arrived.  He was there the night Natalee died, and the night they disposed of her body.  I call that involvement.

[mrs. red]

I wonder if we have any guests reading that could translate??  If we do, would you please email Klaasend and do so?  we would appreciate it!!

[EURobert]

I think the AD article is very revieling and I won't be suprised if we see some of that back in the 'undercover' operation of PRdeVries because the neighbour thinks she knows/has seen the Aruban guy at Jorans former house! (Apparently he lives somewhere else now.)
 

[private eye]

What I would like is to see an attorney going toe to toe with the judges and prosecutor on administering Arubian Law, challenging them, and then disclosing accurately to the public any infractions, significant infractions. I think there are rules that cannot be so easily ignored if an attorney was eye to eye with them. And I don't know that is the arrangement she has with JQK. Law is a battle of words, interpretation, etc.

Like I say, JQK has everything Beth needs, he has her trust and respect, and that is all that matters.

[AZLady]

This article says his name is Eshrik Martel.
http://www.ad.nl/holloway/article2019129.ece

[Bearlyhere]

Maybe we could all chip in and send the Sporter a game to prepare for KIA.

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[truthseeker2]

What I would like is to see an attorney going toe to toe with the judges and prosecutor on administering Arubian Law, challenging them, and then disclosing accurately to the public any infractions, significant infractions. I think there are rules that cannot be so easily ignored if an attorney was eye to eye with them. And I don't know that is the arrangement she has with JQK. Law is a battle of words, interpretation, etc.

Like I say, JQK has everything Beth needs, he has her trust and respect, and that is all that matters.

I think that if they truly want to run a quality investigation they should pull Van Der Straten back in and interrogate the hell out of him.  He, too, was around in the very beginning and had a great deal of control of the 'investigation'.  Remeber...he said Natalee was dead very early in all this.  He knew because he had 'seen the evidence'.  What evidence had he seen?

[Destiny]

I, for one, have great expectations for the Sunday airing of Joran's confession!

Of course he is resigned...it can't be stopped.  Joran said it himself. "ALL HELLS BREAKING LOOSE"

The damn of *fear* in the general populace, I feel, is starting to crack.  I feel the airing of the show, might, just might, make someone in the know, feel brave or greedy enough to blast the dam wide open.

The REWARD $$$ offered by Beth...will take on a life of it's own.

[Bearlyhere]

I have to confess I am worried that they are going to let him go.... and I am wondering how the K2 fit into this now.... let's face it y'all... we all know they raped her. Regardless of how they spun the Skeeter's tape, I did hear the "undoctored original" and Deepak does, IN FACT, state that they all had sex with her and how easy it was that night....

You can most definately bet they are involved....

Mrs.

Of course you are worried, this scenario has repeated itself over and over. 

For me, at least until Sunday night, I am not going to let anyone piss in my rootbeer.

[Blue Moon]

I go out to clean the windows on my car (my husband polished it) and I come back in here and you have advanced 5 pages on me.  I can never catch up

[Buckeye]

I think the AD article is very revieling and I won't be suprised if we see some of that back in the 'undercover' operation of PRdeVries because the neighbour thinks she knows/has seen the Aruban guy at Jorans former house! (Apparently he lives somewhere else now.)
 

Great to see you in the cage EURobert.  Thanks for all your hard work translating.

[Nut44x4]

http://mark-v-steenbergen.hyves.nl/

Here is a 'Mark' on Joran's Hyves friends list. This guy has the wine throwing video on his site.

[wreck]

I, for one, have great expectations for the Sunday airing of Joran's confession!

Of course he is resigned...it can't be stopped.  Joran said it himself. "ALL HELLS BREAKING LOOSE"

The damn of *fear* in the general populace, I feel, is starting to crack.  I feel the airing of the show, might, just might, make someone in the know, feel brave or greedy enough to blast the dam wide open.

The REWARD $$$ offered by Beth...will take on a life of it's own.

BINGO! The only reason no one has talked in Aruba is FEAR. Now that this is EXPOSED world-wide -- everyone will be clamoring to be the one to "corroborate."  You really nailed it!!!

PANDORA's BOX WILL BE WIDE OPEN!!!

[San]

I have to confess I am worried that they are going to let him go.... and I am wondering how the K2 fit into this now.... let's face it y'all... we all know they raped her. Regardless of how they spun the Skeeter's tape, I did hear the "undoctored original" and Deepak does, IN FACT, state that they all had sex with her and how easy it was that night....

You can most definately bet they are involved....

I agree mrs. red.  We all will see tomorrow for ourselves.

[Buckeye]

Maybe we could all chip in and send the Sporter a game to prepare for KIA.

http://www.gilliusinc.com/dropsoap.html

Don't Drop the Soap™ * * * $34.99 * * *

 

   He may prefer the game How to Drop the Soap.   

[EURobert]

Thank you. You're welcome.
That post was indeed my 'maiden'-post.

PRdeVries was just on Nova (dutch news-show). He said that Joran confesses in the hidden-camera-recordings that Natalee died in his arms! He also said he paid the camera-man 5000 euro per month for five months. (so totaly € 25,000.)

[klaasend]

Posted on the front page of SM:

EURobert wrote:

PRdeVries says that Joran confesses that Natalee died in his arms!


Feb 2, 5:27 PM

EURobert wrote:


PRdeVries has payed the undercover-cameraman € 5000 per month (total € 25000,-.) He’s in the Dutch Nova-show now.