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Topic: 9/8 Annie Marie Le missing from Yale University (BODY FOUND) (Read 277254 times)
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Re: 9/8 Annie Marie Le missing from Yale University (BODY FOUND)
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Quote from: joesamas mama on September 15, 2009, 06:59:16 PM
One more JSM question, have we learned if this was the "creepy" guy that opened the door for the lady and she saw blood stain on his clothes? Just asking, I'm sorry if my questions have already been asked.
I don't think we know the answer to that yet. At least, I don't know. (LOL)
Thanks again, when I saw that pic of him and the blank stare, it just made me think of the description the lady gave of the guy that opened the door for her.
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Re: 9/8 Annie Marie Le missing from Yale University (BODY FOUND)
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Quote from: cece on September 15, 2009, 07:05:40 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on September 15, 2009, 06:59:16 PM
One more JSM question, have we learned if this was the "creepy" guy that opened the door for the lady and she saw blood stain on his clothes? Just asking, I'm sorry if my questions have already been asked.
I don't think we know the answer to that yet. At least, I don't know. (LOL)
Thanks again, when I saw that pic of him and the blank stare, it just made me think of the description the lady gave of the guy that opened the door for her.
I can't remember the full description except for the stare and the spot of blood on his shirt. Did she give any identifying features? tia
I notice the guy Ray, in the photo is wearing a cross.
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Quote from: can on September 15, 2009, 07:19:34 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on September 15, 2009, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: cece on September 15, 2009, 07:05:40 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on September 15, 2009, 06:59:16 PM
One more JSM question, have we learned if this was the "creepy" guy that opened the door for the lady and she saw blood stain on his clothes? Just asking, I'm sorry if my questions have already been asked.
I don't think we know the answer to that yet. At least, I don't know. (LOL)
Thanks again, when I saw that pic of him and the blank stare, it just made me think of the description the lady gave of the guy that opened the door for her.
I can't remember the full description except for the stare and the spot of blood on his shirt. Did she give any identifying features? tia
I notice the guy Ray, in the photo is wearing a cross.
I just remember the lady saying that he kind of creeped her out and then she noticed the blood. Then later she found out Annie was missing and she was interviewed by the FBI once she called them. I don't remember if there was a description of him, except he opened the door she said thanks and I think he said anytime or something like that. Like I said I am way behind so I could be reading more into this than I should be.
I also noticed the cross too. Second thing that popped out at me, after seeing his eyes.
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Quote from: Kat_Gram on September 15, 2009, 06:59:55 PM
What happened to the other guy ? Lei Zhang ?
Don't know but seems he's off the Monkeys radar now.
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Quote from: joesamas mama on September 15, 2009, 07:14:47 PM
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Quote from: joesamas mama on September 15, 2009, 06:59:16 PM
One more JSM question, have we learned if this was the "creepy" guy that opened the door for the lady and she saw blood stain on his clothes? Just asking, I'm sorry if my questions have already been asked.
I don't think we know the answer to that yet. At least, I don't know. (LOL)
Thanks again, when I saw that pic of him and the blank stare, it just made me think of the description the lady gave of the guy that opened the door for her.
I can't remember the full description except for the stare and the spot of blood on his shirt. Did she give any identifying features? tia
I notice the guy Ray, in the photo is wearing a cross.
Found this here on the thread posted by Cece and No Rose,
http://www.newhavenindependent.org/archives/2009/09/was_that_annie.php
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Re: 9/8 Annie Marie Le missing from Yale University (BODY FOUND)
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Quote from: joesamas mama on September 15, 2009, 07:23:24 PM
Quote from: can on September 15, 2009, 07:19:34 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on September 15, 2009, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: cece on September 15, 2009, 07:05:40 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on September 15, 2009, 06:59:16 PM
One more JSM question, have we learned if this was the "creepy" guy that opened the door for the lady and she saw blood stain on his clothes? Just asking, I'm sorry if my questions have already been asked.
I don't think we know the answer to that yet. At least, I don't know. (LOL)
Thanks again, when I saw that pic of him and the blank stare, it just made me think of the description the lady gave of the guy that opened the door for her.
I can't remember the full description except for the stare and the spot of blood on his shirt. Did she give any identifying features? tia
I notice the guy Ray, in the photo is wearing a cross.
I just remember the lady saying that he kind of creeped her out and then she noticed the blood. Then later she found out Annie was missing and she was interviewed by the FBI once she called them. I don't remember if there was a description of him, except he opened the door she said thanks and I think he said anytime or something like that. Like I said I am way behind so I could be reading more into this than I should be.
I also noticed the cross too. Second thing that popped out at me, after seeing his eyes.
Good memory JSM!
http://www.newhavenindependent.org/archives/2009/09/was_that_annie.php
A stranger held open the door for her. He seemed odd — and he had blood on his shirt.
It could well have been a coincidence. But the encounter inside the garage at 10 Amistad St. spooked her.
When she later learned that it happened the same day that murdered graduate student Annie Le went missing — she knew it was time to call the cops.
She ended up telling her story to the FBI. In a conversation during her lunch break Tuesday, she told it again to the Independent.
The woman (who asked to remain anonymous) works in a Yale medical building on Cedar Street, right by the laboratory building at 10 Amistad where state cops Sunday found the remains of Le, a 24 year-old pharmacology graduate student.
She parks in a garage attached to the modern Amistad building. You need a Yale magnetic ID card to get in.
She headed there last Tuesday around 5:25 p.m. after finishing work.
“I was walking into the garage. This man was holding the door for me,” she recalled. She noticed that she had never seen him before. And she noticed blood on his shirt.
Not a lot of blood.
“The spot was about the size of a quarter or a half dollar maybe. It was on the lower front,” she said. “At the time I thought it was strange. And I thought, ‘Ewwww.’”
She described the man as being white and of “medium build.” He wore glasses and had reddish brown hair.
“I said, ‘Thank you.’ He said, ‘Any time,’” she said.
Something about his response struck her as “weird.” She “walked very fast” to the car and tried not to think about it again.
On Thursday she and a coworker were talking about safety in the medical area. Her friend said she feels nervous sometimes. She said she generally doesn’t. “Oh yeah,” she added. “I did get creeped out by that guy” at the garage on Tuesday afternoon.
She started thinking — Tuesday was the day Annie Le went missing. At home that night she read more about the case in the newspaper. She thought more. It was still a possible missing person investigation.
By Friday she decided to call the Yale cops, just in case. She told them what happened. An FBI agent called her back to discuss what happened. She told him the whole story.
She hasn’t heard from the FBI since. She has no idea whether or not the door-opener was Annie Le’s killer.
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Re: 9/8 Annie Marie Le missing from Yale University (BODY FOUND)
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Quote from: joesamas mama on September 15, 2009, 07:23:24 PM
Quote from: can on September 15, 2009, 07:19:34 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on September 15, 2009, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: cece on September 15, 2009, 07:05:40 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on September 15, 2009, 06:59:16 PM
One more JSM question, have we learned if this was the "creepy" guy that opened the door for the lady and she saw blood stain on his clothes? Just asking, I'm sorry if my questions have already been asked.
I don't think we know the answer to that yet. At least, I don't know. (LOL)
Thanks again, when I saw that pic of him and the blank stare, it just made me think of the description the lady gave of the guy that opened the door for her.
I can't remember the full description except for the stare and the spot of blood on his shirt. Did she give any identifying features? tia
I notice the guy Ray, in the photo is wearing a cross.
I just remember the lady saying that he kind of creeped her out and then she noticed the blood. Then later she found out Annie was missing and she was interviewed by the FBI once she called them. I don't remember if there was a description of him, except he opened the door she said thanks and I think he said anytime or something like that. Like I said I am way behind so I could be reading more into this than I should be.
I also noticed the cross too. Second thing that popped out at me, after seeing his eyes.
Another thing that came up today is that he was seen on camera entering and leaving. His clothing was different. Hey, we need a big red flag emotion!
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Re: 9/8 Annie Marie Le missing from Yale University (BODY FOUND)
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September 15, 2009, 07:33:34 PM »
Quote from: cece on September 15, 2009, 07:28:11 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on September 15, 2009, 07:23:24 PM
Quote from: can on September 15, 2009, 07:19:34 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on September 15, 2009, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: cece on September 15, 2009, 07:05:40 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on September 15, 2009, 06:59:16 PM
One more JSM question, have we learned if this was the "creepy" guy that opened the door for the lady and she saw blood stain on his clothes? Just asking, I'm sorry if my questions have already been asked.
I don't think we know the answer to that yet. At least, I don't know. (LOL)
Thanks again, when I saw that pic of him and the blank stare, it just made me think of the description the lady gave of the guy that opened the door for her.
I can't remember the full description except for the stare and the spot of blood on his shirt. Did she give any identifying features? tia
I notice the guy Ray, in the photo is wearing a cross.
I just remember the lady saying that he kind of creeped her out and then she noticed the blood. Then later she found out Annie was missing and she was interviewed by the FBI once she called them. I don't remember if there was a description of him, except he opened the door she said thanks and I think he said anytime or something like that. Like I said I am way behind so I could be reading more into this than I should be.
I also noticed the cross too. Second thing that popped out at me, after seeing his eyes.
Good memory JSM!
http://www.newhavenindependent.org/archives/2009/09/was_that_annie.php
A stranger held open the door for her. He seemed odd — and he had blood on his shirt.
It could well have been a coincidence. But the encounter inside the garage at 10 Amistad St. spooked her.
When she later learned that it happened the same day that murdered graduate student Annie Le went missing — she knew it was time to call the cops.
She ended up telling her story to the FBI. In a conversation during her lunch break Tuesday, she told it again to the Independent.
The woman (who asked to remain anonymous) works in a Yale medical building on Cedar Street, right by the laboratory building at 10 Amistad where state cops Sunday found the remains of Le, a 24 year-old pharmacology graduate student.
She parks in a garage attached to the modern Amistad building. You need a Yale magnetic ID card to get in.
She headed there last Tuesday around 5:25 p.m. after finishing work.
“I was walking into the garage. This man was holding the door for me,” she recalled. She noticed that she had never seen him before. And she noticed blood on his shirt.
Not a lot of blood.
“The spot was about the size of a quarter or a half dollar maybe. It was on the lower front,” she said. “At the time I thought it was strange. And I thought, ‘Ewwww.’”
She described the man as being white and of “medium build.” He wore glasses and had reddish brown hair.
“I said, ‘Thank you.’ He said, ‘Any time,’” she said.
Something about his response struck her as “weird.” She “walked very fast” to the car and tried not to think about it again.
On Thursday she and a coworker were talking about safety in the medical area. Her friend said she feels nervous sometimes. She said she generally doesn’t. “Oh yeah,” she added. “I did get creeped out by that guy” at the garage on Tuesday afternoon.
She started thinking — Tuesday was the day Annie Le went missing. At home that night she read more about the case in the newspaper. She thought more. It was still a possible missing person investigation.
By Friday she decided to call the Yale cops, just in case. She told them what happened. An FBI agent called her back to discuss what happened. She told him the whole story.
She hasn’t heard from the FBI since. She has no idea whether or not the door-opener was Annie Le’s killer.
Thank you Cece! - that description seems to fit.
to the woman that took the time to report what she saw.
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Re: 9/8 Annie Marie Le missing from Yale University (BODY FOUND)
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Quote from: can on September 15, 2009, 07:29:09 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on September 15, 2009, 07:23:24 PM
Quote from: can on September 15, 2009, 07:19:34 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on September 15, 2009, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: cece on September 15, 2009, 07:05:40 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on September 15, 2009, 06:59:16 PM
One more JSM question, have we learned if this was the "creepy" guy that opened the door for the lady and she saw blood stain on his clothes? Just asking, I'm sorry if my questions have already been asked.
I don't think we know the answer to that yet. At least, I don't know. (LOL)
Thanks again, when I saw that pic of him and the blank stare, it just made me think of the description the lady gave of the guy that opened the door for her.
I can't remember the full description except for the stare and the spot of blood on his shirt. Did she give any identifying features? tia
I notice the guy Ray, in the photo is wearing a cross.
I just remember the lady saying that he kind of creeped her out and then she noticed the blood. Then later she found out Annie was missing and she was interviewed by the FBI once she called them. I don't remember if there was a description of him, except he opened the door she said thanks and I think he said anytime or something like that. Like I said I am way behind so I could be reading more into this than I should be.
I also noticed the cross too. Second thing that popped out at me, after seeing his eyes.
Another thing that came up today is that he was seen on camera entering and leaving. His clothing was different. Hey, we need a big red flag emotion!
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What happened to the other guy ? Lei Zhang ?
I don't know, Zhang is the research technician in the Bennet lab where Annie worked. Maybe there is a difference with lab techs and research techs??? Maybe the lab techs just feed and care for the mice and rats? I have no idea, I am just wondering outloud, well, sort of outloud.
I am also mistified how he could have done something like this with his sister and her husband working at the same time and in the same building?? Possibly even his fiance. Something doesn't feel right about this.
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I am feeling not sick or anything at all. Except in my head. lol Got a serious issue up there with this stuff. Just get tired real easy.
..
This case, way too much information that seems all over the place, too many unnamed " sources " . We have proximity cards at my work and they can track every time anyone uses one to enter whatever door. They
do not track exits, just our entrances.
However, sometimes we come in as a group from the elevators so the tracking would not tell the entire story.
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OK, the lady that told the FBI about the guy who opened the door for her, said he had red hair and wore glasses, how does that fit??
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http://www.youtube.com/v/9RxHjOKjcN8&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x3a3a3a&color2=0x999999&border=1
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http://www.youtube.com/v/vKilMGqlomk&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x3a3a3a&color2=0x999999&border=1
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Cece - LOLOL - boy you're quick! Gotta' love that red flag!
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Re: 9/8 Annie Marie Le missing from Yale University (BODY FOUND)
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Quote from: AZSunny on September 15, 2009, 07:45:02 PM
Quote from: Kat_Gram on September 15, 2009, 06:59:55 PM
What happened to the other guy ? Lei Zhang ?
I don't know, Zhang is the research technician in the Bennet lab where Annie worked. Maybe there is a difference with lab techs and research techs??? Maybe the lab techs just feed and care for the mice and rats? I have no idea, I am just wondering outloud, well, sort of outloud.
I am also mistified how he could have done something like this with his sister and her husband working at the same time and in the same building?? Possibly even his fiance. Something doesn't feel right about this.
Hi Monks...catching up! there are so many twists and turns in this......AZ it doesn't feel right to me either......I am reserving my vote on who done it until there is more information.
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Cece - LOLOL - boy you're quick! Gotta' love that red flag!
She's good.
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Quote from: joesamas mama on September 15, 2009, 06:55:09 PM
Okay, I have been trying not to post questions, but this is one I probably don't want to know the answer to, but I will ask anyway.
What kind of animals exactly are they researching with? Rats, cats, puppies, monkeys
Reason I am asking, could he use the scratch marks as saying a monkey attacked him? Just thinking what his excuse could be, but failing a polygraph and being missing that doesn't jive well with that excuse. TIA JSM
I thought mice/rodents.
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Cece - LOLOL - boy you're quick! Gotta' love that red flag!
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Quote from: can on September 15, 2009, 07:53:42 PM
Cece - LOLOL - boy you're quick! Gotta' love that red flag!
She's good.
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===> Susan Powell 28yrs old, missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
===> Michelle Loree Parker, Last Seen 11/17/11, Orlando, FL
===> Celina Cass, 11yrs old missing 7/25/11 New Hampshire
===> Aliayah Lunsford, 3yrs old, Weston, West VA, missing since 9/24/2011
===> Lisa Irwin, 10mo old missing since 10/4/2011 KC, MO
===> Robyn Gardner missing in Aruba August 2, 2011
=> Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives
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Virginia Area Missing and Murdered - possible connections
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=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
=> Hannah Elizabeth Graham missing since 9/13/14 Charlottesville, VA
=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
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=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
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===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
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=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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=> Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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