Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1

[cubbeegirl]

I wonder if the Grandmother "knows" this babysitter - although, at this point I don't believe she exists...  Seems to me that if the Caycee and Caylee were living with the GP's, then the GP's would have some knowledge of the babysitter, especially since Caycee says this babysitter has been around for nearly 2 yrs.  This babysitter story seems bogus to me.

Also, on the 911 call from the GM, she said the car smells like there was a dead body in it?  OK - you don;t just throw around those types of comments....  Why would she use "dead body" - why not garbage or rotten food, or a dead animal?

So much in this just makes me go 

I don't believe the babysitter even exists either. And from the first time I saw the mother I felt that she was strung out on meth or crack or something. I have a feeling that she might have left little Caylee alone before while she went out and did her thing only this time things went awfully bad in ...... Poor little Caylee....

The Grandmother's demeanor just rubs me the wrong way..... she seems so combative and defensive..... Very strange indeed.....JMO

[2NJSons_Mom]

Previous 911 tapes & purported shopping spree by Casey with Cindy's credit cards discussed in this clip from Nancy Grace 7/24/08:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2008/07/24/ng.caylee.911.cnn

[NM]

http://www.local6.com/news/16991530/detail.html

POSTED: 4:00 pm EDT July 25, 2008

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The grandmother of a missing Orlando girl and the child's mother exchanged harsh words and even profanity during a new 13-minute jailhouse call released Friday.
The call was recorded hours after Casey Anthony, 22, was taken into custody last week in connection with the disappearance of her daughter, Caylee.
During the conversation, Casey Anthony told her mother that she doesn't know where her daughter is.
"Mom," Casey Anthony said. "I just saw your nice little cameo on TV.
"Which one," Cindy Anthony said.
"What do you mean which one?" Casey Anthony said.
"Which one?" Cindy Anthony said. "I did four different ones and I haven't seen them all. I've only seen one or two so far."
"You don't know what my involvement is in (inaudible)?" Casey Anthony asked.
"Casey," Cindy Anthony said.
"Mom," Casey Anthony said.
"No, I don't know what you involvement is, sweetheart," Cindy Anthony said. "You are not telling me where she's at."
"Because I don't (expletive) know where she's at," Casey Anthony said. "You are kidding me?"
"Casey, don't waste your call screaming and hollering at me," Cindy Anthony said.
Cindy Anthony then told her that she should blame herself for being in jail.
"Whose fault is it you're sitting in jail?" Cindy Anthony said. "Are you blaming me you are sitting in the jail? Blame yourself for telling lies. What do you mean it is not your fault? What do you mean it's not your fault, sweetheart? If you would have told them the truth and not lied about everything..."
"Do me a favor and just tell me what Tony's number is," Casey Anthony said. "I don't want to talk to you. Forget it."

[Blonde]

The Grandmother had backed herself into a corner now and she is changing her story smells like a dead body/ now it's 19 day old pizza  . arrest my daughter /my daughter is a wonderful mother.

 
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I don't believe the babysitter even exists either. And from the first time I saw the mother I felt that she was strung out on meth or crack or something. I have a feeling that she might have left little Caylee alone before while she went out and did her thing only this time things went awfully bad in ...... Poor little Caylee....
>snip>
her ex-fiancé contradicted Casey Anthony's timeline of events in a sworn statement to deputies Tuesday afternoon.

The man, identified only as Jesse, told Eyewitness News and deputies Tuesday that he believes little Caylee Anthony was with her mother Casey much more recently than Casey has let on.

Not sure did the babysitter sell the baby,to Zenaida Fernando-Gonzalez  if Casey was strung out on meth or crack she could have sold her. What about this her ex-fiancé wasen't he a cop wouldn't he know if she was strung out.

[Blonde]

The man, identified only as Jesse, told Eyewitness News and deputies Tuesday that he believes little Caylee Anthony was with her mother Casey much more recently than Casey has let on.

CuppyCakes  Websleuths
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hey all. so i post here and at websleuths, and there's been a lot of speculation over there as to whether or not jesse is actually caylee's father, if caylee's father is actually dead, why jesse resigned the day he did from the police dept. etc. and jesse's dad came across the boards and read what people had been thinking/wondering/saying... he mentioned how people had been to his myspace and even hacked into his wife's, etc. and so basically, i took it upon myself to just come out and ASK him about jesse/caylee connection, etc.

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here is mr. grund's (jesse's father) reply:


Thank you for writing.

No my son Jesse is not the father. He paid for the best testing in the nation to prove there was 0% possibility he was the father. And, it devestated him because at that point he loved that little girl. Even then he was willing to stay with the mother and take care of her and Caylee. That's the story that hasn't gotten out yet because of this case being active and pending. The Sheriff's Dept now has the paperwork and said they would give a statement about that. I am hoping it's soon because the attention worsens every day.

If you read my blog, Caylee was here almost every day of the first ten months of her life. We all fell in love with her. This is personal for all of us.

How can someone not be offended when their spirituality is questioned or whether they are mobsters and in on the disappearance. Or, speculation as to your son's character or actions. Speculation like this goes beyond trying to figure this case out it becomes hurtful and libelous. Even the reporters and news people that hound us day and night are careful of what they say. From what I've seen of many, not all, on that site is very hurtful stuff. They have forgotten these are real people not fictional characters.

And, in the midst of all of that Jesse works his butt off for the Anthony family trying to find Caylee.

As for the police resignation - he realized he didn't have the personality or spiritual make up to be a street cop. He was raised that everything is black or white, there are no greys. And, he was raised to treat people with respect and not to see them all as criminals or"perps". That's not what they wanted. So, before he made a long term mistake he resigned for personal reasons to go back to school and get his masters in Criminal Justice. That took a lot of character and courage to do. But, that doesn't sell newspapers does it?

Casey, the mother, has not been in our lives for two years. She's only been in his because he gets to see Caylee and still be a part of her life. Without Caylee there is no reason to put up with Casey's lies and manipulations.

There you have all the perinent answers.

God bless.

[Blonde]

http://www.local6.com/news/16915353/detail.html
Link to all the video's
SEARCH FOR CAYLEE
VIDEO: Jailhouse Call; New Optimism
VIDEO: Jailhouse Visitor
AUDIO: Initial 911 Call
VIDEO: Inconsistent Stories
AUDIO: Mom On 911 Call
AUDIO: 2nd 911 Call
VIDEO: Grandmother Reacts
VIDEO: New Slab In Yard?
VIDEO: Mom May Be Bailed Out
VIDEO: Attorney Grilled
VIDEO: Family Works On Bond
VIDEO: Airport 'Sighting' Pursued
VIDEO: Investigation Continues
VIDEO: Possible Sighting
VIDEO: 'Decomposition' Smell
VIDEO: Judge's Bond Ruling
VIDEO: Threat To Family?
VIDEO: Court Hearing Scheduled
VIDEO: Mom To Get Out Of Jail?
VIDEO: Attorney Addresses Media
VIDEO: New Leads; Tattoo Clue?
VIDEO: Car Location Checked
VIDEO: Dig Done; Grandma Hopes
VIDEO: Interview Of Grandparents
VIDEO: Other Locations Searched
VIDEO: CSI Teams Check Car
VIDEO: Cadaver Dogs Search Yard
VIDEO: Attorney, Boyfriend Speak
VIDEO: Search Ongoing; PC Seized
VIDEO: Sgt. Discusses Case
VIDEO: Mom Appears Before Judge
VIDEO: Mother Doing Own Search
VIDEO: Girl Missing; Mom Arrested

[NM]

Wow. Please listen to this 13 minute jail phone call from casey to her family

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/orl-casey-anthony-jail-full-mp3,0,4188975.mp3file

This girl is a monster and I feel sorry for her family and friend.

I'm glad they released these phone call b/c I no longer feel that the grandmother has anything to do with Caylee's disappearance.

Here is the above site with more info
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_local_orlandocrime/caylee_anthony/index.html

[carpe noctem]

Some more on the jail house phone call.

Fox with Trace G.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HMkh3cAOrps

[Blonde]

babysitter  Zenaida Fernando-Gonzalez  from NY cops can't find her can we?

[Blonde]

[cubbeegirl]

Unbelievable! Her daughter has been missing for a month before she was forced into reporting it to the police by her mother and she now says that all anyone is interested in is finding Caylee and that she was arrested on a whim......

[klaasend]

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/7/25/911_tapes_released_casey_anthony39s_family_cannot_post_bond.html

Brother Visits Casey Anthony, Call Home From Jail Released
Saturday, July 26, 2008 12:16:09 AM

ORLANDO --  Casey Anthony's brother visited his sister Friday for the first time since her arrest.

Records from the Orange County Jail showed that her brother Lee visited her at noon for 45 minutes Friday.  Casey's parents also visited for 45 minutes at 1 p.m.

Lee Anthony said the family is getting a crash course in the legal system because they haven't been through this before.
 
He also said his sister is not mad at investigators anymore and is even willing to talk to them.

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http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/7/25/casey_anthony39s_brother_speaks.html

Casey Anthony's Brother Jail Visit
Saturday, July 26, 2008 12:11:49 AM
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View LargerORLANDO --Casey Anthony's brother visited his sister Friday for the first time since her arrest.

Records from the Orange County Jail showed that her brother visited her at noon for 45 minutes Friday. Caylee's parents also visited for 45 minutes at 1 p.m.

He also said his sister is not mad at investigators anymore, and is even willing to talk to them.

"My sister today gave me some information and says that ‘I wanna talk to’ she mentioned a few people specifically at the Orange County Sheriff's Department. She said she’s willing to speak to the FBI. I was able to talk to my sister and say the only thing we're finding out is what we're learning from investigators or what we’re hearing from your attorney. And I pretty much was able to verify with her is this accurate. She says some things are absolutely and some things she was appalled. The majority of my communication with her was saying ‘Let me fill you in on exactly what we know. In a sense hit you with some knowledge on exactly what you’re able to do. Now Casey's informed and now she can start to clarify some of these things that have been dragging on about these web of lies and all these things. There are answers to every one of these questions," said Anthony.

Lee Anthony said the family also did not know Casey needed to have some money in an account, in order to make a phone call from they jail. He said they're taking care of that problem.

[carpe noctem]

okay... now we have some conflicting info.

...
Fox 35 Orlando

In reference to reports of a concrete slab recently being poured in the family’s backyard, Padilla says the information is incorrect. “There's no slab back there unless we're blind bats," he said.

He did confirm that there were square pavers down on the ground but no concrete was poured.  "Let's say Caylee had been back there. The dogs would have alerted us, " Padilla said.

The Orange County Sheriff’s Office says they are sure nothing is in the backyard and they have no plans on going back.

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FOX NEWS CHANNEL Fri. night

Phil Keating indicates towards the
end of his live shot, that they had cadaver
dog hits on the car and backyard.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HMkh3cAOrps

[carpe noctem]

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MS FRIEND MESSAGES

Are you sure she was really looking

for baby Caylee? Because she did not

seem to appear to care all that much,

observing online activity.

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June 9,2008

Hey baby!I hope NY is treating you right.Question!!!!!do you know any local girls,that can sing?my boyfriend Tony,and his business partners are looking for an up and coming female R&B artist let me know!!!i miss you!




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June 12,2008 9:14

so im thinking,you should bring your happy a** back into orlando tomorrow night,for a bad a** hip hop showcase/album release party.google the address on the poster,on my myspace page,id love to see you out there!


June 12,2008 19:54

sounds good hun



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June 12,2008 15:46

you're online!!! come out to fusion tonight...mandatory attendance Alexander Ryans



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June 22,2008 19:29

its been ages:(ill give you a call this week,



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Jun 25 2008 10:36 AM

hey girly! long time. are you going to be in orlando this weekend?



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July 14,2008 22:10

she sent a video to this user about drums because he is a drum player it is by killer chops tv on you tube


 

[NM]

IMO this is the Tony that casey keeps talking about.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/community/news/conway/orl-caylee2008jul20,0,2486087.story
Since June, Casey Anthony could be seen at the Fusian Ultra Lounge in the Waterford Lakes area almost every Friday night, Fusian owner Bruce Lam said. She recently dated Anthony Lazzaro, a promoter for the club, he said.

"I had no idea she had a kid," Lam said. "I thought she was a typical college kid. All the promoters were cool kids. I was very surprised."

[carpe noctem]

She appears to have been arrested development type.

Living like she had no kid. Grandma Cindy may have been

busy being a grandma and a mom!


Another MS Friend Message I found on her.


Jun 12 2008 6:41 AM

you guys should definitely check it out!
cover is only $5. there's going to be live artists,
a full bar, and an album release that you shouldn't miss!
hope to see you out there!

[carpe noctem]

Jun 25 2008 12:35 PM

come to orlando friday!!!!
i miss your happy ass, plus, you need to join me for a few beverages, and the ALL WHITE PARTY, at fusian. i never asked...do you like sushi?? get at me brotha!

[NM]

More on her "boyfriend", Tony Lazarro. This is just sad.

http://www.wftv.com/news/16979873/detail.html?rss=orlc&psp=news

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Friends of arrested mother Casey Anthony revealed to Channel 9 what she was really doing since her daughter's disappearance. Casey Anthony's friends are still freaking out over how she acted as though she hadn't a care in the world during the time she now says she had no idea where her daughter Caylee was.
Friends told Eyewitness News Casey celebrated Independence Day with her boyfriend Tony Lazarro. She partied and cooked dinner for him and his roommate.
Friends said Lazzaro believed she worked as an event planner at Universal Studios for the two months they were together. She told him her boss allowed her to work from her computer at his Winter Park apartment. They found out later from her family she wasn't earning the money she was spending. Instead, Casey was running up her mother's credit cards.
When Casey called Lazarro for a ride from the Amscot where she abandoned her car, she claimed it had broken down and that her father was going to get it to a shop later. That car holds some of the most significant evidence investigators have revealed, possible evidence of Caylee's hair, a suspicious stain and the odor of human decomposition, all in the trunk.
While Casey was in court on Tuesday trying to get out of jail on bond, detectives were at her boyfriend's apartment complex going door-to-door asking residents whether they've seen Casey and Caylee there. An employee at Sutton Place Apartments remembered, sadly, how she'd seen them at a swimming pool in early June with Lazarro. Caylee was playing with dishes in the pool, yelling happily, "Look at me, look at me."

[klaasend]

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[crazybabyborg]

If all the same circumstances in this case existed MINUS the smell in the car, I could believe that Casey might have sold her for drugs, or had just given her to someone. Obviously, this poor child cramped her lifestyle and was an inconvenience. The smell in the car leads to a different conclusion.

This bitch of a Mother is the most cold, calculating, monster I've seen in a long time. She doesn't even seem to be as scared of the consequences as she is irritated that this is happening to her. The police are stupid, calling home and being asked about Caylee makes the call a "total waste", and from jail she has attitude and remains demanding. She's calling the shots to the rest of the ignorant world. She's such a victim to a world of idiots.

The world would be a better place without her, and I hope she has the opportunity to face that when Caylee is found and the truth comes out.

Discussion on FOX last night pointed out one obvious point. As interesting and revealing as it has been to be able to hear the calls from jail, someone really screwed up releasing those calls to media. She might have very well slipped with information about Caylee without the reminder that the world could listen to the calls. Certainly anyone she was speaking with will be aware of the attention.