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Author Topic: Caylee Marie Anthony # 143 8/5/09 - 8/18/09  (Read 384812 times)
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« Reply #320 on: August 07, 2009, 11:12:33 AM »

Limonene Uses

The major use of D-limonene is as a precursor to carvone.[3]

Limonene is common in cosmetic products. As the main odor constituent of citrus (plant family Rutaceae), D-limonene is used in food manufacturing and some medicines, e.g., bitter alkaloids, as a flavoring; it is also used as botanical insecticide[4]. It is added to cleaning products such as hand cleansers to give a lemon-orange fragrance. See: orange oil. In contrast, L-limonene has a piney, turpentine-like odor.

Limonene is increasingly being used as a solvent for cleaning purposes, such as the removal of oil from machine parts, as it is produced from a renewable source (citrus oil, as a byproduct of orange juice manufacture). It also serves as a paint stripper when applied to painted wood.

As it is combustible, limonene has also been considered as a biofuel.[5]

[edit] Chemistry

Limonene is a relatively stable terpene, which can be distilled without decomposition, although at elevated temperatures it cracks to form isoprene.[6] It oxidises easily in moist air to carveol and carvone.[7] Dehydration with sulfur gives to p-cymene, hydrogen sulfide, as well as some sulfides.

Limonene occurs naturally as the (R)-enantiomer, but racemises to dipentene at 300 °C. When warmed with mineral acid, limonene isomerizes to the conjugated diene α-terpinene, which can itself easily be oxidised to p-cymene, an aromatic hydrocarbon. Evidence for this isomerization includes the formation of Diels-Alder α-terpinene adducts when limonene is heated with maleic anhydride.

It is possible to effect reaction at one of the double bonds selectively. Anhydrous hydrogen chloride reacts preferentially at the disubstituted alkene, whereas epoxidation with MCPBA occurs at the trisubstituted alkene. In both cases the second C=C double bond can be made to react if desired.

In another synthetic method Markovnikov addition of trifluoroacetic acid followed by hydrolysis of the acetate gives terpineol.

The most widely practiced conversion of limonene is to carvone. The three step reaction begins with the regioselective addition of nitrosyl chloride across the trisubstituted double bond. This species is then converted to the oxime with base, and the hydroxylamine is removed to give the ketone-containing carvone.[3]
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« Reply #321 on: August 07, 2009, 11:14:41 AM »

The Oak Ridge researcher wrote:
"...On a final note, some of the products we have seen include Pinene and Limonene. This could point to a (possibly) shallow marshy area with decaying vegetation. Is there such an area anywhere near where the car was found?..."


So, in the car truck, evidence of links to a "shallow marshy area with decaying vegetation" was present before Caylee's remains were found. Wouldn't that be a strong direct connection between Casey and the recovery area? Now if they found the same on the bottom of Casey's shoes...can't find it on her pants after Cindy washed them.

Thanks - my first thought when turpentine came up was she or georgie or somebody used turpentine from garage to clean away evidence.


I beleive its 'terpene', not terpentine.  Terpenes are indeed what Leonard mentioned a few times as something they were testing from her trunk.  So, he was actually spilling some accurate information!  LOL

EEEEEEE Gads, just realized I didn't post the link I meant to -  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turpentine   Here is what has me confused.......  calling all scientists!   
Turpentine (also called spirit of turpentine, oil of turpentine, wood turpentine, gum turpentine, white spirit) is a fluid obtained by the distillation of resin obtained from trees, mainly pine trees. It is composed of terpenes, mainly the monoterpenes alpha-pinene and beta-pinene. It is sometimes known colloquially as turps, but this more often refers to turpentine substitute (or mineral turpentine).
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« Reply #322 on: August 07, 2009, 11:16:46 AM »

Info on BLUESTAR     http://www.bluestar-forensic.com/
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« Reply #323 on: August 07, 2009, 11:17:52 AM »

The MBI was conceived to fill the need for a cooperative effort to combat criminal activities which were organized, well-financed, and operated freely across jurisdictional lines of the existing law enforcement agencies. The MBI was created as a specialized group of investigators assigned to concentrate on narcotics trafficking, organized crime, racketeering, and vice-related offenses such as prostitution, gambling, and violations of adult entertainment codes.

 
I really, really believe there is much more to this case.

So do I.
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« Reply #324 on: August 07, 2009, 11:24:10 AM »

I understand better why law enforcement settled so soon on Casey as the responsible party. The evidence is there.
If this woman is not convicted, or if she gets a light sentence, it will be for political reasons, not for lack of evidence.

Like the rest of you, I won't be interested in buying a book that benefits any Anthony or any defense connection, or even any of Casey's "friends" (aka ill-used acquaintances.) But, I would like to see a complete story told by law enforcement.
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« Reply #325 on: August 07, 2009, 11:24:50 AM »

The MBI was conceived to fill the need for a cooperative effort to combat criminal activities which were organized, well-financed, and operated freely across jurisdictional lines of the existing law enforcement agencies. The MBI was created as a specialized group of investigators assigned to concentrate on narcotics trafficking, organized crime, racketeering, and vice-related offenses such as prostitution, gambling, and violations of adult entertainment codes.

 
I really, really believe there is much more to this case.

Me, too.

So do I.
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« Reply #326 on: August 07, 2009, 11:26:18 AM »

preliminary forensic report on an odor analysis of the trunk carpet sample
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0807/20317133.pdf
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« Reply #327 on: August 07, 2009, 11:27:10 AM »

http://www.wesh.com/video/20315569/index.html

Animation Shows Caylee Anthony Crime Scene

Ugh!! Just ugh!! Did you see how far away some of her remains were found. 
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« Reply #328 on: August 07, 2009, 11:28:58 AM »



From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not to be confused with lemonene.

Limonene is a hydrocarbon, classified as a cyclic terpene. It is a colourless liquid at room temperatures with an extremely strong smell of oranges. It takes its name from the lemon, as the rind of the lemon, like other citrus fruits, contains considerable amounts of this chemical compound, which is responsible for much of their smell. Limonene is a chiral molecule, and as is common with such forms, biological sources produce one enantiomer: the principal industrial source, citrus fruit, contains D-limonene ((+)-limonene), which is the (R)-enantiomer (CAS number 5989-27-5, EINECS number 227-813-5). Racemic limonene is known as dipentene.[1]

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Pinene
The chemical compound pinene is a bicyclic terpene (C10H16, 136.24 g/mol ) known as a monoterpene [1]. There are two structural isomers found in nature: α-pinene and β-pinene. As the name suggests, both forms are important constituents of pine resin; they are also found in the resins of many other conifers, and more widely in other plants. Both are also used by many insects in their chemical communication system.

http://www.springerlink.com/content/p442777544360624/   

Sorry - got in your quote box.  So is it turpentine?   http://www.springerlink.com/content/p442777544360624/

I think it is a natural compound found in the wooded area. It comes from conifers, which are in the area.
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Yep.I remember us talking about this before.
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« Reply #329 on: August 07, 2009, 11:29:11 AM »

preliminary forensic report on decomposition: www.wesh.com

http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0807/20317108.pdf
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« Reply #330 on: August 07, 2009, 11:29:47 AM »

preliminary forensic report on an odor analysis of the trunk carpet sample
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0807/20317133.pdf

DECOMPOSING PIZZA WAS FOUND IN TRUNK?     
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« Reply #331 on: August 07, 2009, 11:31:28 AM »



From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not to be confused with lemonene.

Limonene is a hydrocarbon, classified as a cyclic terpene. It is a colourless liquid at room temperatures with an extremely strong smell of oranges. It takes its name from the lemon, as the rind of the lemon, like other citrus fruits, contains considerable amounts of this chemical compound, which is responsible for much of their smell. Limonene is a chiral molecule, and as is common with such forms, biological sources produce one enantiomer: the principal industrial source, citrus fruit, contains D-limonene ((+)-limonene), which is the (R)-enantiomer (CAS number 5989-27-5, EINECS number 227-813-5). Racemic limonene is known as dipentene.[1]

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Pinene
The chemical compound pinene is a bicyclic terpene (C10H16, 136.24 g/mol ) known as a monoterpene [1]. There are two structural isomers found in nature: α-pinene and β-pinene. As the name suggests, both forms are important constituents of pine resin; they are also found in the resins of many other conifers, and more widely in other plants. Both are also used by many insects in their chemical communication system.
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Morning, all!  Popping in briefly to say these two chemicals remind me of scents added to cleaning products like Pine-Sol and Lemon-Pledge. Of course, I am a rank amateur.  But it did cause me to consider, what kind of cleaning products do most of us keep around the house?  Would Casey have used household items or purchased other things?  If she purchased, there might be a paper trail (debit card receipts, stolen check, Credit Card transaction).  If someone else purchased (like George/Cindy), there may or may not be.  I'm going to assume LE confiscated cleaning supplies, based on chemical analysis of that trunk. I can't see Casey herself, running out to get cleaning supplies.  Nor can I see Lee cleaning that trunk.  JMO
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« Reply #332 on: August 07, 2009, 11:32:30 AM »

Sorry Tupelohoney!  I got in your post by mistake.   
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« Reply #333 on: August 07, 2009, 11:34:29 AM »

The MBI was conceived to fill the need for a cooperative effort to combat criminal activities which were organized, well-financed, and operated freely across jurisdictional lines of the existing law enforcement agencies. The MBI was created as a specialized group of investigators assigned to concentrate on narcotics trafficking, organized crime, racketeering, and vice-related offenses such as prostitution, gambling, and violations of adult entertainment codes.

 
I really, really believe there is much more to this case.

I'm not sure if there are other implications or if it's a case of MBI have the manpower, resources, connections to devote to this particular case.  Then again, very little would surprise me when it comes to Casey.
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« Reply #334 on: August 07, 2009, 11:37:10 AM »

preliminary forensic report on an odor analysis of the trunk carpet sample
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0807/20317133.pdf

DECOMPOSING PIZZA WAS FOUND IN TRUNK?     

Vocab lesson - LOL  for me anyway!

Anaerobic is a technical word which literally means without air (where "air" is generally used to mean oxygen), as opposed to aerobic.

In wastewater treatment the absence of oxygen is indicated as anoxic; and anaerobic is used to indicate the absence of a common electron acceptor such as nitrate, sulphate or oxygen. An anaerobic adhesive is a bonding agent that doesn't cure in the presence of air.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaerobic

Aerobic is an adjective that means "requiring air", where "air" usually means oxygen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerobic_(disambiguation)

So, I am taking it that the pizza or dead animal would have had to have been wrapped to produce the anaerobic decomp that was found.   Correct me scientist if I am wrong. 
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« Reply #335 on: August 07, 2009, 11:37:48 AM »

preliminary forensic report on decomposition: www.wesh.com

http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0807/20317108.pdf

Nice clear fingerprint
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« Reply #336 on: August 07, 2009, 11:38:06 AM »

preliminary forensic report on an odor analysis of the trunk carpet sample
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0807/20317133.pdf

DECOMPOSING PIZZA WAS FOUND IN TRUNK?     

No. A page or so later, report states that was a mistake.
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« Reply #337 on: August 07, 2009, 11:38:58 AM »

I understand better why law enforcement settled so soon on Casey as the responsible party. The evidence is there.
If this woman is not convicted, or if she gets a light sentence, it will be for political reasons, not for lack of evidence.

Like the rest of you, I won't be interested in buying a book that benefits any Anthony or any defense connection, or even any of Casey's "friends" (aka ill-used acquaintances.) But, I would like to see a complete story told by law enforcement.

I'm with you Treehouse.  I would love to see the story told by LE.
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« Reply #338 on: August 07, 2009, 11:39:22 AM »

preliminary forensic report on an odor analysis of the trunk carpet sample
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0807/20317133.pdf

DECOMPOSING PIZZA WAS FOUND IN TRUNK?     

Vocab lesson - LOL  for me anyway!

Anaerobic is a technical word which literally means without air (where "air" is generally used to mean oxygen), as opposed to aerobic.

In wastewater treatment the absence of oxygen is indicated as anoxic; and anaerobic is used to indicate the absence of a common electron acceptor such as nitrate, sulphate or oxygen. An anaerobic adhesive is a bonding agent that doesn't cure in the presence of air.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaerobic

Aerobic is an adjective that means "requiring air", where "air" usually means oxygen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerobic_(disambiguation)

So, I am taking it that the pizza or dead animal would have had to have been wrapped to produce the anaerobic decomp that was found.   Correct me scientist if I am wrong. 

PAGE 3  - Previous reports of Decomposing pizza were NOT TRUE!
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« Reply #339 on: August 07, 2009, 11:40:31 AM »

preliminary forensic report on an odor analysis of the trunk carpet sample
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0807/20317133.pdf

DECOMPOSING PIZZA WAS FOUND IN TRUNK?     

Vocab lesson - LOL  for me anyway!

Anaerobic is a technical word which literally means without air (where "air" is generally used to mean oxygen), as opposed to aerobic.

In wastewater treatment the absence of oxygen is indicated as anoxic; and anaerobic is used to indicate the absence of a common electron acceptor such as nitrate, sulphate or oxygen. An anaerobic adhesive is a bonding agent that doesn't cure in the presence of air.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaerobic

Aerobic is an adjective that means "requiring air", where "air" usually means oxygen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerobic_(disambiguation)

So, I am taking it that the pizza or dead animal would have had to have been wrapped to produce the anaerobic decomp that was found.   Correct me scientist if I am wrong. 

That's what I understand, too. Maybe she shrink wrapped the dead squirrel? j/k  not funny
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