Natalee Case Discussion #837 6/10/10 - 6/12/10

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ARUBA DID  YOU HERE THIS ALE HE'S GOING TO BRING YOU ALL DOWN

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I am not sure what this means. Can you explain it Blonde?

It means she knows they are watching

[terryd270]

I bet the boats, planes and trains (opps no trains) are full of people leaving that little island.. They will all go into hiding now.. They should of taken care of Jordan when they had him on that island but now he is out there without them being able to make him shut up.. I would think there will be lots of people in prison over there that will find out exactly what happen to Natalee, heck they have 24/7 to play with Jordan.. I assume someone, a guard will give those that give them information an extra blanket or whatever that is valued over there.. So if someone wants an extra smoke, he just have to play with Jordan and get some more information, names, places and suck.. I know if I was in a hell hole and someone like Joran came into my hell hole and I knew he could be a source of making my life in the hell hole better, I would be sure he knew that he needed to keep me happy..

TD

[seemeatthebeach]

I wonder if Joran is asking to speak to a specific Aruban official.  Does he want to tell them they better help him out or he'll let the house of cards fall.  It it's allowed, it will be interesting to see who shows up. 

If it happens, I guarantee it will be Dolph Richardson.

If it happens he has to have rock solid proof (in writing & emails).  Because if he is just going to blabber people won't believe him and say he is a liar.

I think this is where Anita enters the picture.  Anita has the information but in this case will she use it.  She doesn't have Paul to back her up anymore and she is going to have to call in some hugh favors.

I was thinking just last night that life is changing dramatically for Anita and the rest of her male brood now. I seriously doubt if they will enjoy the broad support they have moving forward.

I wonder why that crackerjack journalist Renfro isn't over in Peru doing live reports on all of this? Why isn't FOX and CNN and HLN just tripping over themselves to put her on the air???

Renfro's fifteen minutes of fame is fleeting.......

She would never travel there by herself especially being a Joran supporter.  If she starts spewing her crap out on TV that Joran is innocent and I have talked to many people in Peru and they said so too she will be harmed.

She is an American Traitor and she will have to live with that title the rest of her life.

There was a "Pricella" from Amsterdam chatting on the live feed yesterday.....she was supporting Joran and trashing Peruvian authorities. The chatters from Peru were crucifying her. I couldn't translate a lot of the words they were using, but I got a message from a "Silvia" and she said I didn't want to know what they were saying. Very bad she said, and even worse words addressing Joran......

[AZSunny]

I wonder if Joran is asking to speak to a specific Aruban official.  Does he want to tell them they better help him out or he'll let the house of cards fall.  It it's allowed, it will be interesting to see who shows up. 

If it happens, I guarantee it will be Dolph Richardson.

If it happens he has to have rock solid proof (in writing & emails).  Because if he is just going to blabber people won't believe him and say he is a liar.

I think this is where Anita enters the picture.  Anita has the information but in this case will she use it.  She doesn't have Paul to back her up anymore and she is going to have to call in some hugh favors.

I was thinking just last night that life is changing dramatically for Anita and the rest of her male brood now. I seriously doubt if they will enjoy the broad support they have moving forward.

I wonder why that crackerjack journalist Renfro isn't over in Peru doing live reports on all of this? Why isn't FOX and CNN and HLN just tripping over themselves to put her on the air???

Renfro's fifteen minutes of fame is fleeting.......

Oh, I do hope your right!  It is way past time! 

[Edward]

Now is the time for Joran & Anita to push Pauls under the bus.
Daddy killed Natalee and buried her but I know where she is

I think that is exactly what is going to happen. I am not sure that is not what really happened.

 No matter what in the end it was way bigger then Just Paulus.
Altough..  "It Is Paulus"
I do believe that Joran may ahve brought Natalee to somebody as gift.. Could be Paulus and could be OTHERS..
It took a lot of people to hide the information and to plant and maintain the disinformation and many people named and not yet named should be in prison for that.
Some of them may be VERY powerful and you know who they are.
They really could help everybody inside of Castro Prison in Peru.
Joran is to dangerous to have out on the streets... For everybody.

[San]

I wonder if Joran is asking to speak to a specific Aruban official.  Does he want to tell them they better help him out or he'll let the house of cards fall.  It it's allowed, it will be interesting to see who shows up. 

If it happens, I guarantee it will be Dolph Richardson.

If it happens he has to have rock solid proof (in writing & emails).  Because if he is just going to blabber people won't believe him and say he is a liar.

I think this is where Anita enters the picture.  Anita has the information but in this case will she use it.  She doesn't have Paul to back her up anymore and she is going to have to call in some hugh favors.

I was thinking just last night that life is changing dramatically for Anita and the rest of her male brood now. I seriously doubt if they will enjoy the broad support they have moving forward.

I wonder why that crackerjack journalist Renfro isn't over in Peru doing live reports on all of this? Why isn't FOX and CNN and HLN just tripping over themselves to put her on the air???

Renfro's fifteen minutes of fame is fleeting.......

She would never travel there by herself especially being a Joran supporter.  If she starts spewing her crap out on TV that Joran is innocent and I have talked to many people in Peru and they said so too she will be harmed.

She is an American Traitor and she will have to live with that title the rest of her life.

There was a "Pricella" from Amsterdam chatting on the live feed yesterday.....she was supporting Joran and trashing Peruvian authorities. The chatters from Peru were crucifying her. I couldn't translate a lot of the words they were using, but I got a message from a "Silvia" and she said I didn't want to know what they were saying. Very bad she said, and even worse words addressing Joran......

I wonder if that was really Guido :0)

[texasmom]

Good morning Monkeys!

Thanks for the updates and video!  I agree with Magnolia, the one with John Q. Kelly is the best regarding the sting that I've seen too.

I'm almost giddy at the thought that Joran is going to finally see his final home on this earth today.  Oh I hope they don't put him in solitary confinement and ruin all the fun!  

Wonder if he'll think about that house in Spain he dreamed about.  That house he was going to get with his big compensation check....LMAO!

He's trying to play his last card, he'll tell the Aruban authorities where Natalee's body is... oh really?  I'm not holding my breath.  He's not the only one that knows, they've spent plenty of time and effort making sure she wasn't found.  And if she was in Dec 2007, they made sure that was covered up too!  It's time for someone to give that information to the FBI, and give the family closure.  They need to jerk that card right out of that psychopath's hand and put an end to the games.  He's tormented Natalee's family for five years with his lies.  And he's dragged Aruba through the mud with each and every one.  When will someone who has the power to do it, finally say enough is enough!

[TURBOTHINK]

I bet the boats, planes and trains (opps no trains) are full of people leaving that little island.. They will all go into hiding now.. They should of taken care of Jordan when they had him on that island but now he is out there without them being able to make him shut up.. I would think there will be lots of people in prison over there that will find out exactly what happen to Natalee, heck they have 24/7 to play with Jordan.. I assume someone, a guard will give those that give them information an extra blanket or whatever that is valued over there.. So if someone wants an extra smoke, he just have to play with Jordan and get some more information, names, places and suck.. I know if I was in a hell hole and someone like Joran came into my hell hole and I knew he could be a source of making my life in the hell hole better, I would be sure he knew that he needed to keep me happy..

TD

I would be more than glad to provide them many luxuries for the information. Does anyone have the address for the king pin of the prison?  We as a group could make their life very nice. LOL

[Sea Searcher]

sorry seasearcher.  I see you already answered Gypsy's question.
I'm sooooo sloooooow!

[terryd270]

I would let the live feeds from the other prisoners be my source of information, they will get the truth from Joran.. They have rules too and I assume killing one of their own, in their country shows he has no respect for them and I'm sure they won't have any for him.. I don't think he will have too many rights as we have here in the US, thank God.. I mean he will be tested very early in his stay..  He will talk, once in prison, they will make him talk.. He will talk and talk until they get tired of hearing him and then they will make him be quiet.. He beat a girl with a tennis racquet and knocked her eye out, I don't think they will be too gentle with him, he will pay and with interest..

TD

[seemeatthebeach]

Van der Sloot No Off Line Poker Tourney Wins: Only Wanted Girls

For someone who's played a lot of poker at casinos all over the world, murder suspect Joran van der Sloot hasn't done much winning, at least not in major offline poker tournaments.

According to professional poker player databases maintained at Poker Pages (www.pokerpages.com) and Hendon Mob (www.hendonmob.com), van der Sloot, 22, has NEVER finished in the money in any significant offline poker tourney.

Both websites keep up-to-date records on all major (and many minor) offline poker tournaments around the world, and there are no listings of van der Sloot's name for an in-the-money finish in any offline poker tournament of note ever.

He has played big-time offline tournament poker.

The Miami Herald reported the other day that van der Sloot participated in a major poker tournament in China in 2009.

The tourney, a stop on the Asia Pacific Poker Tour (APPT) that was held in Macau, China and that is officially called APPT-Macau, was held at major casino.

A tournament participant named Noah Acre who sat at the same poker table as van der Sloot during the tourney and chatted with him, told the Herald: "I am pretty good at sizing people up quickly and he (van der Sloot) seemed like all he cared about was partying and getting girls."

Dutch thug and wannabe poker pro van der Sloot--who was suspected of killing American teen Natalee Holloway in Aruba in 2005 but was never charged due to lack of evidence--allegedly killed a Peruvian woman, Stefany Flores, in Lima, Peru last week, and reportedly has confessed to the murder, according to a Peruvian newspaper.

The young Dutchman was in Lima for APPT-Lima, but only as a fan--the San Francisco Chronicle reported he wasn't registered to play in the event (he likely couldn't afford the buy-ins, as he was staying in a $40-a-night rooming house).

He did play some in some "ring" or cash games at the Atlantic City Casino in Lima, where the tourney was held and where he met Flores.

He has also previously been seen playing poker at casinos in Aruba and the Netherlands.

He is also believed to play online poker, and has had some success--he reportedly won $12,000 recently in an online poker tournament.

By Tom Somach

Gambling911.com Staff Writer

tomsomach@yahoo.com

http://www.gambling911.com/poker/van-der-sloot-no-line-poker-tourney-wins-only-wanted-girls-061110.html

[wreck]

Anyone thinking about J.P. Sanders as a possible "Sander Gottenbos" connection?

[AnnieMW1]

The complaint also includes John Williams, John Oswaldo Aparcana Pisconte and Carlos Alberto Uribe parapet. A los tres se les acusa por el presunto delito de omisión de denuncia. The three are accused by the alleged failure to report crime.
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Wonder who these people are and what they know?

I interpreted the rest of the article as them being the "taxi" drivers that took him to Chile...

More likely people he e-mailed after the deed was done - ??  Why would he mention anything to taxi drivers?

[thirdstrike]

Hello everyone!  Happy Friday to all!! 

[TURBOTHINK]

Now is the time for Joran & Anita to push Pauls under the bus.
Daddy killed Natalee and buried her but I know where she is

I think that is exactly what is going to happen. I am not sure that is not what really happened.

 No matter what in the end it was way bigger then Just Paulus.
Altough..  "It Is Paulus"
I do believe that Joran may ahve brought Natalee to somebody as gift.. Could be Paulus and could be OTHERS..
It took a lot of people to hide the information and to plant and maintain the disinformation and many people named and not yet named should be in prison for that.
Some of them may be VERY powerful and you know who they are.
They really could help everybody inside of Castro Prison in Peru.
Joran is to dangerous to have out on the streets... For everybody.

Oh yes, and I am in hopes that he is just the first in a long line of people who will go down over Natalie's death and cover up.

[SunnyinTX]

Anyone thinking about J.P. Sanders as a possible "Sander Gottenbos" connection?

Who is J.P. Sanders?  Please don't make me read back. boo hoo

[Gypsy DD]

Thank you SS!

Yes I believe info about Natalee will be in his computer.  If he is stupid enough to stage that whole return from the coffee shop on the video he is stupid enough to keep a diary and info about her.

In a way I hope there is, but on the other hand, I am almost afraid of what they will find on there. If my suspicions are right there may be much more than any of us want to know.

Absolutely!

[nonesuche]

I bet the boats, planes and trains (opps no trains) are full of people leaving that little island.. They will all go into hiding now.. They should of taken care of Jordan when they had him on that island but now he is out there without them being able to make him shut up.. I would think there will be lots of people in prison over there that will find out exactly what happen to Natalee, heck they have 24/7 to play with Jordan.. I assume someone, a guard will give those that give them information an extra blanket or whatever that is valued over there.. So if someone wants an extra smoke, he just have to play with Jordan and get some more information, names, places and suck.. I know if I was in a hell hole and someone like Joran came into my hell hole and I knew he could be a source of making my life in the hell hole better, I would be sure he knew that he needed to keep me happy..

TD

Hi Terry - so happy to see you back

[nonesuche]

Anyone thinking about J.P. Sanders as a possible "Sander Gottenbos" connection?

Who is J.P. Sanders?  Please don't make me read back. boo hoo

I have been thinking that both of the Gottenbos boys might be quaking in their boots waiting for Joran to begin letting shoes drop..........

[Tamikosmom]

Just because I like it --

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,454527,00.html
Nov. 19, 2008

“And Greta, I was just wanting to say that, you know, like I said, it's been a long time, but it's never too late for justice. And I'd be good with a "Midnight Express" prison anywhere for Joran.” – Beth Holloway

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