Captain of The Sweet Mary is/was Lorenzo Erasmus.
I found this tid-bit....wonder if any relation....
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PROCES-VERBAAL (SECOND STATEMENT SUSPECT D.S. KALPOE)
We,
Johny Melvis ERASMUS and Clyde Anthony BURKE, respectively officer first class and sergeant first class with the Korps Politie Aruba and assigned to the Section Often Occurring Crime District 2, declare the following.
On June 10th 2005, approximately 13:45 hours we interviewed suspect D.S. KALPOE for further information.
The suspect D.S. KALPOE was informed by me, BURKE, that he was not obliged to make a statement and that his statement would be taped. His statement that was in Dutch was transcribed by me, BURKE, and goes as follows.
"To your question as to how long I know Joran, I can state the following. I know Joran since before carnaval of this year. I think since January 2005.
To your question whether I can describe my friendship with Joran, I can state the following. We go out together, get to know each other. We have become good friends.
To your question as to what kind of person Joran is, I can state the following. Joran is funny, sociable, likes to get to know people and he is easy to get along with.
To your question whether I visit Joran, I can state the following. I often go and visit Joran.
To your question as to how often I visit Joran, I can state the following. I usually visit Joran on the weekends.
To your question whether I some times visit Joran during the week, I can state the following. It sometimes happens that I go to him during the week.
To your question whether we go out together, I can state the following. We go out together.
To your question as to where we usually go, I can state the following. We usually go to the casino and to "Carlos & Charlies".
To your question as to what is the purpose of going out, I can say the following. The purpose of going out to the casino is making money, and going to "Carlos & Charlies" is to go and have a drink, and for the good atmosphere.
To your question whether my brother also comes along, I can state the following. My brother always comes along.
To your question as to how is the relationship between my brother and Joran, I can state the following. Satish has known Joran longer than me. Their friendship is good.
To your question whether I often have contact with Joran over the phone, I can state the following. Yes, I often have contact with Joran over the phone.
To your question as to how often I have contact with him over the phone, I can state the following. The last two weeks it was daily. Before that it was usually messages.
To your question as to how often I have been in contact with Joran over the phone over the past two weeks, I can state the following. We had contact over the telephone about three to four times a day.
To your question about what we spoke when we were contact over the telephone, I can state the following. We talked about that what had happened and whether his father had information for us about about the matter.
To your question as to why we talked so much about what had occurred, I can state the following. After we were heard as witnesses, we felt involved in what had occurred, and also because Joran's father was a judge and he knows a lot of laws, and because he thought we could yet be considered suspects and arrested.
To your question as to how Joran's father came to the conclusion I just mentioned, I can state the following. We had told him about the interview, so about the manner we were interviewed.
To your question that if I know that I am innocent, I have nothing to worry about, I can state the following. I am innocent and still I was arrested.
To your question as to what else Joran's father had told us, I can state the following. I cannot remember that at this moment in time.
To your question as to when I last was in Joran's place the last time, I can state the following. I went to his place Wednesday June 8th, at approximately 22.45 hours, together with my brother Satish.
To your question as to what the purpose of this visit was, I can state the following. First of all because we had no power at our house, and secondly because Joran wanted to see the video of my brother's school trip.
To your question as to who was at the house, I can state the following. His parents were at the house and his little brother.
To your question as to how late we stayed there, I can state the following. We stayed there until about 02.00 hours in the morning.
To your question whether we had talked to Joran's father that night, I can state the following. We had spoken to him, because he sat down with us.
To your question about what we had talked to him about, I can state the following. He had said that there were people from the press outside the door.
To your question as to what more he had said, I can state the following. I do not remember.
(comment reporting officer: at this moment, I, BURKE, asked the suspect D.S. KALPOE as to how it is possible that yesterday he could make statements about things that took place a week ago, and that he now is unable to remember a conversation from the day before yesterday. The suspect D.S. KALPOE stated that he cannot remember anything, that they had only talked about the people from the media and about the video they were watching).
To your question since when I have my car, I can state the following. I bought the car about two years ago.
To your question whether it was a new of used car, I can state the following. I was a used car.
To your question as to how often I wash my car, I can state the following. Usually the car wash does my car and I do it every two weeks.
To your question whether I washed my car in the past two weeks, I can state the following. I have not washed my car in the past two weeks.
To your question where I park my car at home, I can state the following, at home I park my car with the backside of the car under a tree.
To your question as to how it is possible that my car looks so clean, I can state the following. My car according to me is not clean because if you look at the outside you can see there is mud on the bottom of the car.
To your question whether I can remember the day when I was summoned to the police station at Bubali, I can say the following. Yes I remember that day.
You are telling to me that my car looked very clean on that day. About that I can state the following, I had vacuumed my car the previous day.
To your question as to why I had vacuumed my car the previous day, I can state the following. I thought my car was dirty on the inside there was a lot of sand.
To your question as to how dirty my car was on the inside, I can state the following. There was a lot of sand inside of the car.
To your question as to when I had been to the beach for the last time, I can state the following. I had been to a party on the beach about two or three weeks ago.
To your question as to where the sand came from the day in question that I vacuumed the car, I can state the following. The sand came from Joran, because he had almost fallen into the water and after that he had sat down in my car with sand on his shorts and on his legs.
To your question as to why I vacuumed the car on that Sunday in question, I can state the following. I thought it was dirty.
To your question as to why, after having driven in the car all that time, I chose that particular Sunday to vacuum my car, I can state the following. It is my car, and I can vacuum it when I want. I clean my car when I want to clean it.
To your question whether my brother has been in contact with Joran over the telephone, I can state the following. He has been in contact but I don't know how often.
To your question whether we keep in contact through the computer, I can state the following. Yes we are in contact through the computer.
To your question whether Joran has a girlfriend, I can state the following. Joran had a girlfriend. Joran told me last week that she broke off the relationship.
To your question whether Joran had told me why she had broken off the relationship, I can state the following. Joran has told me that his girlfriend broke off the relationship because of that what had happened with the missing girl.
To your question as to how Joran emotionally acted, I can state the following. He acted normally.
To your question whether Joran has girlfriends or has had girlfriends, I can state the following. I do not know.
To your question whether or not we pick up girls when we go for example to "Carlos & Charlies", I can state the following. Yes, we from time to time pick up girls there.
To your question whether these are local girls or tourists, I can state the following. They are tourists.
To your question as to who is the one who makes the first move towards the girls we are going to pick up, I can state the following. It usually is Joran or another friend with the name Freddy Zedan.
To your question as to what role Joran plays in our circle of friends, I can state the following. He has no real role. We are all the same.
To your question as to where we take the girls we pick up, I can state the following. Sometimes the girls stay at "Carlos & Charlies" or sometimes we take them to their hotel.
To your question was to what exactly happens when we have picked up the girls, I can state the following. Just kissing and dancing.
To your question whether sexual intercourse has happened, I can state the following. Yes, it has happened.
To your question whether it ever happened that all of us, so in one room, had sexual intercourse, I can state the following. It has happened.
To your question whether it ever happened that the three of us had sexual intercourse with a girl, I can state the following. That has never happened.
You are telling me that I made a statement about a Steve yesterday, and now you are asking me who Steve is. Steve is a customer who comes to my place of work to use the Internet.
To your question as to what exactly Steve had told me, I can state the following. I was talking to someone on the phone about what had happened, and when I hung up the phone Steve said to me that I should not worry because he had seen us dropping off the girl at the hotel, he even saw that she had fallen down and that Joran had helped her up.
To your question as to where Steve was to have been able to see to see all of this, I can state the following. I didn't ask him where he was in order to have seen all of this. He also told me that he had not been to work that day. Instead he had been at "Carlos & Charlies" and because of that he was of two minds about going to the police because he feared losing his job.
To your question as to how I got hold of his mobile phone number, I can state the following. I had asked him for his number and had told him that I would give it to the police if I got in trouble so that they could call him.
To your question as to how it is possible that I state that Steve was not sure whether he should go to the police, because he was afraid to lose his job, but that on the night in question, he did go to a public place like "Carlos & Charlies" and on top of that gave me his phone number so that he now can be sent for to testify, I can state the following. You should ask him.
To your question whether Steve knows Joran, I can state the following. Steve does not know Joran.
To your question whether I have spoken to my brother about Steve, I can state the following. I have spoken to everybody about Steve, with my mother, Satish, Joran and Joran's parents.
To your question whether I gave all of them Steve's mobile phone number, I can state the following. No, I kept the number to myself.
To your question as to why I quickly had an attorney, I can state the following. After we were heard as witnesses, Joran's father said that there would be chance that we were going to be arrested, and that we had to prepare for that eventuality.
To you question as to how we prepared ourselves, I can state the following. By preparing I just meant looking for an attorney.
To your question whether I had spoken to my attorney prior to my arrest, I can state the following. Both families had a meeting with the attorneys. So my parents with me and my brother, and Joran with his parents.
To your question as to when that took place, I can state the following. That took place last Saturday.
To your question as to where it took place, I can state the following. It took place in the offices of my attorney.
To your question whether both families went to one office or to several offices, I can state the following. We all went to the same office at the same time. Our attorney asked us if the statement we had made as witnesses was the truth, and said that we should stick to that story.
To your question whether I had ever been in an accident with my car, I can state the following. I had an accident once. I was a rear end collision. I had suffered no injury. The accident happened approximately one month ago.
(Comment reporting officer: the suspect was given a moment to think after I, BURKE, had had a conversation with the suspect "off the record" regarding his age and that he should think of his family and also about his future. After a few minutes the interview was continued. The suspect was asked if he had thought about it, to this he answered that he had been thinking and that he wanted to talk to his attorney first and after that make a more detailed statement. The suspect was prepared to continue with this interview/interrogation. The suspect was also asked to take of his shirt to ascertain that there were no wounds visible on him. None could be seen).
To your question whether me and my brother wash my car together, I can state the following. We did this on a number of occasions.
To you question as to when this happened for the last time, I can state the following. It was a long time ago, I think in February. Because it got busier and busier for me, he did it numerous times on his own.
To your question what I think of this situation/case, I can state the following. I feel tired and sad.
To your question why I feel sad and tired, I can state the following. I feel that because of me my whole family is suffering.
To your question what I mean with suffering, I can state the following. Because I wasn't supposed to go out if I had to go to work on a Monday. If I hadn't gone out, I would not be here. Joran would also not be here because he wouldn't have had a ride.
To your question whether I know why I have been arrested, I can state the following. I am here because you think that we did it.
To your question as to what I mean with "because you think we did it", I can say the following. With this I mean, that she is missing or was kidnapped.
To your question as to what I personally think, I can state the following. I personally do not think she is dead. I think she must be at someone's house.
To your question as to how I come to that opinion, I can state the following. They haven't found her body, so she isn't dead.
To your question as to how it is possible, that after having been confronted with a security guard that was most likely the one who was at the "Holiday Inn Hotel" in the night it happened, the one about whom I had stated that I could recognise him if I saw him again, I can state the following. The man from today was not the security guard I had seen. The hair of the security guard I saw was different and he had a different body height.
To your question as to how it is possible that there are contradictions in the statements given by me, Satish and Joran, regarding where exactly we stopped in front of the lobby of the hotel, I can state the following. I don't know, I have stated the place where I know I brought the car to a full stop.
(Comment reporting officer: the suspect was informed to take a minute to really think, he requested 2 minutes to have a conversation with his attorney, after which he would make a detailed statement. His request was granted.)
(comment reporting officer: after the suspect spoke with his attorney, he stated that he would make a detailed statement tomorrow and that he would read through this statement but that he would not sign it.)
Of this we, ERASMUS and BURKE on our oath as officers have made this proces-verbaal closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 10th 2005.
The reporting officers,
J.M.ERASMUS CA. BURKE
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