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dennisintn
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #747 4/11 -
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April 15, 2008, 06:42:25 PM »
Quote from: Kermit on April 15, 2008, 05:58:45 PM
The government of Aruba allocates close to 10 million dollars annually to
promote the island abroad through Aruba Tourism Authority.
http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?t=53670
With tourism dollars down, perhaps the government needs to reconsider how much money they spend on the death island.
was it 05 in the fall, or in 06 that they asked for, and got, an additional 4 or 6 million to augment their advertising budget to offset the drop in tourists?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #747 4/11 -
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Hello Janet..
I watched a video the other day with Beth's attorney Helen Lejuez and she said that Freddys arrest was related to Natalee's case. It was on the Abrahams report and he questioned her on that and she said that is what she was told.
I believe his arrest was related to this case and it was no coincidence he was arrested the same time as Deepak and Satish.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #747 4/11 -
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Quote from: ******* on April 15, 2008, 07:20:15 PM
Hello Janet..
I watched a video the other day with Beth's attorney Helen Lejuez and she said that Freddys arrest was related to Natalee's case. It was on the Abrahams report and he questioned her on that and she said that is what she was told.
I believe his arrest was related to this case and it was no coincidence he was arrested the same time as Deepak and Satish.
HI *******, I thought it was interesting that when it was all said and done, the Authorities said it was unrelated and that the Kalpoes were some how complict in another dastardly deed and cast more bad light on them (in a sense to sway public opinion) and took the onus from Paulus and Joran..
interesting.
If this crime was just the Kalpoes, it would be a distance memory. I just can't see anyone doing all this for them. This is the Sloots. After-all, just about everyone has tried to lay the entire blame at their feet...and one other thing - I really don't think the Kalpoes have anything on the Sloots. The Kalpoes are just not real bright and went with the flow of Paulus' stories and the next thing they knew they were being set-up when Joran changed the story. Steve Croes was also set-up there, as he didn't know the story changed.
If the Kalpoes had anything on the Sloots they would have used it by now and certainly as some type of trump card in their civil suit that seems stalled out.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #747 4/11 -
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Quote from: dennisintn on April 15, 2008, 06:42:25 PM
Quote from: Kermit on April 15, 2008, 05:58:45 PM
The government of Aruba allocates close to 10 million dollars annually to
promote the island abroad through Aruba Tourism Authority.
http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?t=53670
With tourism dollars down, perhaps the government needs to reconsider how much money they spend on the death island.
was it 05 in the fall, or in 06 that they asked for, and got, an additional 4 or 6 million to augment their advertising budget to offset the drop in tourists?
dennisintn
I'm thinking they wasted their money...they really should get better advice.
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Quote from: ******* on April 15, 2008, 07:20:15 PM
Hello Janet..
I watched a video the other day with Beth's attorney Helen Lejuez and she said that Freddys arrest was related to Natalee's case. It was on the Abrahams report and he questioned her on that and she said that is what she was told.
I believe his arrest was related to this case and it was no coincidence he was arrested the same time as Deepak and Satish.
If Freddy's arrest was unrelated to the ongoing investigation of Natalee Holloway...why make a big deal out of it? Surely, there were others arrested around this time also that we never heard about since it really did have nothing to with this case. Also...why did Freddy give all those statements if he had nothing or knew nothing about what was going on? They just wanted to chit-chat with him because he's such a nice guy? Why was it so important for Anita to speak with him to find out what he said? Why was he even mentioned in Joran's book IF he knew nothing and was not involved?
I suppose we can now eliminate Freddy as the 5th suspect...since he had nothing to do with this case...yeah, right.
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Quote from: ******* on April 15, 2008, 07:20:15 PM
Hello Janet..
I watched a video the other day with Beth's attorney Helen Lejuez and she said that Freddys arrest was related to Natalee's case. It was on the Abrahams report and he questioned her on that and she said that is what she was told.
I believe his arrest was related to this case and it was no coincidence he was arrested the same time as Deepak and Satish.
I agree *******. Freddy's arrest was related to the case and they made sure to say it wasn't. Just like they hid the little fact that Paulus got him an attorney the first week. Why would he need to get that POS an attorney if he wasn't involved.
Freddy is like teflon nothing sticks to him.
Freddy is a @#$%^&*.
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April 15, 2008, 08:19:23 PM »
Just posted on the front page of SM:
vietvet wrote:
Sounds good to me #47, we boycott you and you boycott us. We can get by just fine. We don’t have to go to Aruba anyway. That is the general idea, boycott as in…do not go to Aruba. Let the island dry up and die. They never intended on giving Natalee justice, they are the ones who only want money…and ours too.
We will not stop the boycott until they return Natalee
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #747 4/11 -
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Quote from: ******* on April 15, 2008, 07:20:15 PM
Hello Janet..
I watched a video the other day with Beth's attorney Helen Lejuez and she said that Freddys arrest was related to Natalee's case. It was on the Abrahams report and he questioned her on that and she said that is what she was told.
I believe his arrest was related to this case and it was no coincidence he was arrested the same time as Deepak and Satish.
******* ... I agree.
Is the following NANCY GRACE interview transcript from the video that your were referring to?
Janet
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Helen Lejuez - Family Attorney
NANCY GRACE
August 26, 2006
HELEN LEJUEZ, TWITTY FAMILY ATTORNEY: I don`t think this has to do with a lot of wiretapping. I do believe it has to do with bringing forth the new evidence. It has to do with the case approaching the 60 days and that they are adding new evidence so they can have the case going.
GRACE: OK, what new evidence, Helen?
LEJUEZ: The rape case.
GRACE: OK. You said new evidence. What "new evidence" regarding Natalee Holloway do you think prosecutors have?
LEJUEZ: Right now, they`re talking about a gang rape. So when we talk about a gang rape, we talk about a gang. The gang consisted of three of them. Right?
GRACE: Right.
LEJUEZ:
Even though -- even though maybe it`s not out that the other suspect that`s in jail right now will be added to the gang, he is part of the gang.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0508/26/ng.01.html
Jossy Mansur
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August 26, 2005
DANIELS: Yes. But I just can‘t get away from the fact that the Kalpoe brothers arrested today, Freddy arrested today. It has to mean something. There has to be a master plan here. What are you hearing about that?
MANSUR: Well, if there is a master plan, we will know about it soon enough.
What I do know is that Freddy was questioned at the beginning with relations to the Natalee Holloway case. He offered an alibi, I believe, to protect Joran. And then he was released. And now he‘s arrested as a suspect of selling photographs. Maybe they are aiming to get to him through this photo business back to the Holloway case
.
DANIELS: It definitely smells that way.
You know, if you take the prosecution‘s statement at its face, we are talking on a whole new level, the charges here. We are talking about drugs. We are talking about rape and we are talking about rape of many different people. There are four guys now in custody, four best friends. What does that tell you?
MANSUR: Well, what it tells me is that, really, these four guys are friends. They belong to the same group, these party boys that go out and prey on young, unsuspected girls or other kinds of girls also that are out to have a good time, not suspecting what they‘re in for with these predators around.
And they are—they not only appear in photographs together, but I understand that Freddy lives very near to the Joran house. So, there is a bond between them. There is a group that they call themselves the pimps, in which all of these participate.
DANIELS: Jossy, take me on the inside. Are they trying to squeeze Freddy? Because that‘s what it looks like.
MANSUR: Probably, yes. Probably yes. They want some better answers from him than he gave the first time.
DANIELS: I mean, are you surprised that this happened, that Freddy, the best friend, the guy in the photos, is being arrested? Is this a posse that everybody in Aruba knew about, the dirty little secret that everybody suspected, but no one was saying?
MANSUR: Well, that I can‘t tell you for sure, because it would only be speculation or whatever.
What I know for certain is that they are closely knit together, all four of the boys, the suspects, that they do party together. They go out together. I mean, they appear in photos together everywhere.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9119491/
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #747 4/11 -
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April 15, 2008, 08:24:56 PM »
Quote from: klaasend on April 15, 2008, 08:19:23 PM
Just posted on the front page of SM:
vietvet wrote:
Sounds good to me #47, we boycott you and you boycott us. We can get by just fine. We don’t have to go to Aruba anyway. That is the general idea, boycott as in…do not go to Aruba. Let the island dry up and die. They never intended on giving Natalee justice, they are the ones who only want money…and ours too.
We will not stop the boycott until they return Natalee
.
I have always believed that Natalee could be found and it is comments like this that makes me believe it could happen.
Before Beth left that island she made a comment saying something like she wanted Natalee and
Aruba could make it happen
.
Janet by chance to you have her original quote?
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Quote from: ******* on April 15, 2008, 08:43:25 AM
Bingo!! Natalee suddenly goes into convulsions less then a hour with Joran and he doesnt ask why? We are supposed to blame this unknown Daury for everything as he is the last person with Natalee? It all happpened at the beach? Case closed? Beth is at peace?
Just thinking of Patrick's email infuriates me and caesu it has nothing to do with him being against the boycott!
Paul Van Der Sloot is still the last person to admit being with Natalee on May 30th 2005 at 4AM as far as I am concerned. That was clearly understood by the Aruban Supreme Court!
IIRC, all seemed to know JVDS would be detained longer than the others as he was the last in the story to be with Natalee. So, who came to that conclusion? Who decided that there was no one after JVDS? Was this the poolside planning?
If there was a Daury, it seems odd that anyone would leave him out of the story...he would be the last one with Natalee. Is JVDS a witness to the disposal of Natalee? Is this story related to him by Daury?
If one didn't want Daury to be responsible for something, then IMHO, Joran becomes the last one with Natalee. Who decided where the story ended that morning?
Who was looking for Daury that morning? Who would know that Daury was part of the story?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #747 4/11 -
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Quote from: klaasend on April 15, 2008, 08:19:23 PM
Just posted on the front page of SM:
vietvet wrote:
Sounds good to me #47, we boycott you and you boycott us. We can get by just fine. We don’t have to go to Aruba anyway. That is the general idea, boycott as in…do not go to Aruba. Let the island dry up and die. They never intended on giving Natalee justice, they are the ones who only want money…and ours too.
We will not stop the boycott until they return Natalee
.
Klaas
Was this posted from his usual IP? I ask because Julia Renfro, posting as Glenda (I say this because she gave a name for Vietvet), said a PI had talked to vietvet and viet vet would no longer be posting. Sorry Glenda....did the PI have Daniel, psychic in his name?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #747 4/11 -
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Quote from: San on April 15, 2008, 08:24:56 PM
Quote from: klaasend on April 15, 2008, 08:19:23 PM
Just posted on the front page of SM:
vietvet wrote:
Sounds good to me #47, we boycott you and you boycott us. We can get by just fine. We don’t have to go to Aruba anyway. That is the general idea, boycott as in…do not go to Aruba. Let the island dry up and die. They never intended on giving Natalee justice, they are the ones who only want money…and ours too.
We will not stop the boycott until they return Natalee
.
I have always believed that Natalee could be found and it is comments like this that makes me believe it could happen.
Before Beth left that island she made a comment saying something like she wanted Natalee and
Aruba could make it happen
.
Janet by chance to you have her original quote?
Hi San ... are either one of these transcript what you were referring to. I posted the entire Geraldo/Beth transcript ... I found it very interesting.
Janet
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Beth Twitty'
Rita Cosby Live & Direct'
September 14, 2005
TWITTY: We will keep going back to Aruba over and over again. This is far from over.
They know—they have the answers there on the island.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9354188/
Beth Twitty
Geraldo At Large
September 11, 2005
GERALDO: On Tuesday, Sept. 6th, the Dutch teenager, Joran Van der Sloot, the prime suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, arrived in the Netherlands following his release from prison a couple of days earlier in Aruba. Van der Sloot, who has acknowledged spending the evening with Natalee before her disappearance but has denied any wrong doing arrived in the Amsterdam airport with his dad,another potential suspect in the case. He /they ignored all questions from the reporters and quickly departed the airport.
Our next guest, our dear friend, believes that the government
in Aruba took advantage of our intense, very necessary and
appropriate focus on Hurricane Katrina to make this dramatic
move and let Van der Sloot sleaze his way off the island of Aruba. Beth joins us tonight from Little Rock. So, first of all hi, how’s your spirits?
Beth: Hi Geraldo. Well it’s pretty tough hanging in there with
all that has happened, and you are exactly right, Geraldo. It was a PR dream for the Dutch government to take advantage
of such a catastrophic event in the United States in order to
release these suspects.
Geraldo: Were you down there kind of screaming don’t forget
us as they got to the airport and got on the plane?
BETH: Well, it’s just incredible that they chose to act under
these circumstances. I think it just shows the world that . . .
what all that we have been put through, . . . and when there’s involvement with the Dutch government, as we have been in Aruba.
GERALDO: It shows the world, Beth, but never the less the
prime suspect in the disappearance of your daughter is now
free, although technically I guess he remains a suspect.
After the arrest of that other guy and the Kalpoe brothers on
that rape tape of the 14 year old I thought they were going
to be in for awhile, or at least they would be in, but they are out too, aren’t they?
BETH: Oh, yes, Geraldo. You know when I heard you state that Joran is still stating that he had no involvement with her disappearance but something that Jug and Dave, Natalee’s
father and I have had knowledge of since early in July, so we have Joran’s statements. We have had them translated for us, and we have at least five. You know, Geraldo, what has been so difficult for us is that we have had this knowledge that Joran has admitted to having sex with Natalee AT HIS HOME as she is coming in and out of consciousness. You know we have protected the integrity of the investigation because we felt that
was the professional way to handle this but you know when we
have been slapped in the face by the Dutch government and . . .
GERALDO: You say that Van der Sloot admits in his police
statement that he is having sex with your daughter, whom I believe was a virgin before she went to Aruba, as she lapses
in and out of consciousness?
BETH: Absolutely Geraldo.
GERALDO: Isn’t there a law , as I recall, one of the things the Kalpoe brothers were suspected of in the porno tapes that they did with the 14 year old was having sex with someone with whom did not have the capacity to give consent. Its seems to me that if your daughter was phasing in and out of consciousness she can not legally consent to have sex.
BETH: Absolutely, Geraldo, that’s why we were so shocked on Sept. 1st because even the Dutch interrogators that have
knowledge of these statements, the lists of inconsistencies are there, the reasonable doubt is there. We were just truly shocked that the sudden release of these suspects. We just
can not fathom how this has happened and how rape is not
a crime within the Dutch government.
GERALDO: It is outrageous, Beth. I really didn’t know about
those statements. You say there are more. You should really
share them with me and I will, not necessarily now, but I will
blast them, believe me. I told you I would be there to the end
with you and I will be. I think it is really retched, it really is. So what are you going to do now?
BETH:
Well, Geraldo, I think that we have had so many millions of people that have supported us in prayer and have sent of cards and emails. The main thing that we would like to ask right now is to please, please just consider not traveling to Aruba or within the Dutch Kingdom and territory until Natalee is returned to her country, because they can absolutely make this happen, Geraldo.
GERALDO: Make happen what? What do you want? Do you want a boycott on Aruba?
BETH:
I would please like for them to consider not to travel to Aruba until she is returned, and the Dutch Kingdom territories, Geraldo. You know if we did not feel that they knew exactly where she was we would not be seeking this
, but we have been such slapped in the face by the present government that is in place that its just hard for us not to begin to make this request now.
GERALDO: How is your boy faring, starting school, he’s 16 right?
BETH: Well, actually Geraldo, he is 17 now. I am going to see him Tuesday. I just flew in from Aruba this morning. I am going to spend a week in Birmingham and I am looking forward to that. We are gong to be re-grouping. This is not over. We are going to continue, Geraldo.
GERALDO: Save your strength. You know we love you. Courage. Regards to everybody. Really, call me with that data because I will use it, I will whack them with it.
BETH: Ok, Thanks Geraldo.
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/09/12/beth-holloway-twitty-finally-says-it-dont-travel-to-aruba/
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Quote from: klaasend on April 15, 2008, 08:19:23 PM
Just posted on the front page of SM:
vietvet wrote:
Sounds good to me #47, we boycott you and you boycott us. We can get by just fine. We don’t have to go to Aruba anyway. That is the general idea, boycott as in…do not go to Aruba. Let the island dry up and die. They never intended on giving Natalee justice, they are the ones who only want money…and ours too.
We will not stop the boycott until they return Natalee
.
Well said. Beth has NOT said this is over. Until she says so the boycott goes on. As a mother I would NEVER allow my son to travel to that hell-hole. I work for a Large international company and believe me when they start their discussions on where the National Sales meeting will be don't think for one minute I don't pipe up and put my 2 cents worth in on where they DO NOT need to travel to this year. A national manager and his wife went last year to Aruba and I was very quick to scold him. He said at his age he felt safe. I informed him NO ONE was safe. The good part was he apologized and said he knew what had happened with Natalee. I don't think he will be traveling there again.
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on April 15, 2008, 09:13:12 PM
Hi San ... are either one of these transcript what you were referring to. I posted the entire Geraldo/Beth transcript ... I found it very interesting.
Janet
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Beth Twitty'
Rita Cosby Live & Direct'
September 14, 2005
TWITTY: We will keep going back to Aruba over and over again. This is far from over.
They know—they have the answers there on the island.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9354188/
Beth Twitty
Geraldo At Large
September 11, 2005
GERALDO: On Tuesday, Sept. 6th, the Dutch teenager, Joran Van der Sloot, the prime suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, arrived in the Netherlands following his release from prison a couple of days earlier in Aruba. Van der Sloot, who has acknowledged spending the evening with Natalee before her disappearance but has denied any wrong doing arrived in the Amsterdam airport with his dad,another potential suspect in the case. He /they ignored all questions from the reporters and quickly departed the airport.
Our next guest, our dear friend, believes that the government
in Aruba took advantage of our intense, very necessary and
appropriate focus on Hurricane Katrina to make this dramatic
move and let Van der Sloot sleaze his way off the island of Aruba. Beth joins us tonight from Little Rock. So, first of all hi, how’s your spirits?
Beth: Hi Geraldo. Well it’s pretty tough hanging in there with
all that has happened, and you are exactly right, Geraldo. It was a PR dream for the Dutch government to take advantage
of such a catastrophic event in the United States in order to
release these suspects.
Geraldo: Were you down there kind of screaming don’t forget
us as they got to the airport and got on the plane?
BETH: Well, it’s just incredible that they chose to act under
these circumstances. I think it just shows the world that . . .
what all that we have been put through, . . . and when there’s involvement with the Dutch government, as we have been in Aruba.
GERALDO: It shows the world, Beth, but never the less the
prime suspect in the disappearance of your daughter is now
free, although technically I guess he remains a suspect.
After the arrest of that other guy and the Kalpoe brothers on
that rape tape of the 14 year old I thought they were going
to be in for awhile, or at least they would be in, but they are out too, aren’t they?
BETH: Oh, yes, Geraldo. You know when I heard you state that Joran is still stating that he had no involvement with her disappearance but something that Jug and Dave, Natalee’s
father and I have had knowledge of since early in July, so we have Joran’s statements. We have had them translated for us, and we have at least five. You know, Geraldo, what has been so difficult for us is that we have had this knowledge that Joran has admitted to having sex with Natalee AT HIS HOME as she is coming in and out of consciousness. You know we have protected the integrity of the investigation because we felt that
was the professional way to handle this but you know when we
have been slapped in the face by the Dutch government and . . .
GERALDO: You say that Van der Sloot admits in his police
statement that he is having sex with your daughter, whom I believe was a virgin before she went to Aruba, as she lapses
in and out of consciousness?
BETH: Absolutely Geraldo.
GERALDO: Isn’t there a law , as I recall, one of the things the Kalpoe brothers were suspected of in the porno tapes that they did with the 14 year old was having sex with someone with whom did not have the capacity to give consent. Its seems to me that if your daughter was phasing in and out of consciousness she can not legally consent to have sex.
BETH: Absolutely, Geraldo, that’s why we were so shocked on Sept. 1st because even the Dutch interrogators that have
knowledge of these statements, the lists of inconsistencies are there, the reasonable doubt is there. We were just truly shocked that the sudden release of these suspects. We just
can not fathom how this has happened and how rape is not
a crime within the Dutch government.
GERALDO: It is outrageous, Beth. I really didn’t know about
those statements. You say there are more. You should really
share them with me and I will, not necessarily now, but I will
blast them, believe me. I told you I would be there to the end
with you and I will be. I think it is really retched, it really is. So what are you going to do now?
BETH:
Well, Geraldo, I think that we have had so many millions of people that have supported us in prayer and have sent of cards and emails. The main thing that we would like to ask right now is to please, please just consider not traveling to Aruba or within the Dutch Kingdom and territory until Natalee is returned to her country, because they can absolutely make this happen, Geraldo.
GERALDO: Make happen what? What do you want? Do you want a boycott on Aruba?
BETH:
I would please like for them to consider not to travel to Aruba until she is returned, and the Dutch Kingdom territories, Geraldo. You know if we did not feel that they knew exactly where she was we would not be seeking this
, but we have been such slapped in the face by the present government that is in place that its just hard for us not to begin to make this request now.
GERALDO: How is your boy faring, starting school, he’s 16 right?
BETH: Well, actually Geraldo, he is 17 now. I am going to see him Tuesday. I just flew in from Aruba this morning. I am going to spend a week in Birmingham and I am looking forward to that. We are gong to be re-grouping. This is not over. We are going to continue, Geraldo.
GERALDO: Save your strength. You know we love you. Courage. Regards to everybody. Really, call me with that data because I will use it, I will whack them with it.
BETH: Ok, Thanks Geraldo.
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/09/12/beth-holloway-twitty-finally-says-it-dont-travel-to-aruba/
Thank you Janet. You are amazing how you found this so quickly.
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Quote from: klaasend on April 15, 2008, 08:19:23 PM
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Sounds good to me #47, we boycott you and you boycott us. We can get by just fine. We don’t have to go to Aruba anyway. That is the general idea, boycott as in…do not go to Aruba. Let the island dry up and die. They never intended on giving Natalee justice, they are the ones who only want money…and ours too.
We will not stop the boycott until they return Natalee
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Klaas
Was this posted from his usual IP? I ask because Julia Renfro, posting as Glenda (I say this because she gave a name for Vietvet), said a PI had talked to vietvet and viet vet would no longer be posting. Sorry Glenda....did the PI have Daniel, psychic in his name?
Glenda/Renfro is FOS
. VietViet hasn't stopped posting. Yes, this is the same Viet Vet and don't believe a word out of that "fluffa's" filthy mouth. Sorry, but I cannot stand that woman (and I use the term woman lightly)
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Quote from: klaasend on April 15, 2008, 08:19:23 PM
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vietvet wrote:
Sounds good to me #47, we boycott you and you boycott us. We can get by just fine. We don’t have to go to Aruba anyway. That is the general idea, boycott as in…do not go to Aruba. Let the island dry up and die. They never intended on giving Natalee justice, they are the ones who only want money…and ours too.
We will not stop the boycott until they return Natalee
.
Well said. Beth has NOT said this is over. Until she says so the boycott goes on. As a mother I would NEVER allow my son to travel to that hell-hole. I work for a Large international company and believe me when they start their discussions on where the National Sales meeting will be don't think for one minute I don't pipe up and put my 2 cents worth in on where they DO NOT need to travel to this year. A national manager and his wife went last year to Aruba and I was very quick to scold him. He said at his age he felt safe. I informed him NO ONE was safe. The good part was he apologized and said he knew what had happened with Natalee. I don't think he will be traveling there again.
In my mind, long after I have passed from this earth, there will be Monkeys attending shows to boycott Aruba, or whatever incarnation of the island exists at that time.
No place stays the same forever. Aruba will never be the place it was thirty or forty years ago. Population increased over time, and other things increased as well, including taxes.
I hope that Natalee is returned to her family. How can people sleep at night knowing they have the answers that this family needs to hear? It may be many years after the fact, but this family deserves answers. They deserve to have their child returned to her home.
The memory of Natalee will be with Aruba forever.
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Have to tell you all a story. I live in a very old house...110 years old...character out the wazoo...expensive as all get out to restore...lol...but worth it. I live in a historic neighborhood in the City of St Louis and the crime here in more than what I grew up with in the Suburbs...ok...can't remember crime growing up except for the occasional stolen bike left out or baseball through the window...lol...so it was a big change for me. So Sunday night I am chatting with you all and I hear gun shots outside my house...5 of them...and I immediately called 911. I was shocked. I mean I know I am not in Kansas anymore...but hellloooo....chatting w/ you all about crime in Aruba and here are gun shots ringing out!!! Not even thinking...and didn't tell you all out of shame...I grab my coat and run out bare foot and in jammies waiting for the police. 3 minutes later...5 cruisers show up!!! Now I am pissed!!! really pissed. My baby boy has fallen asleep on the couch and you are shooting guns out side of my house???!!! Guess what? I was ready to claw the skin off of someone's face.
2 points I want to make...maybe 3..lol...I had a small taste of what Beth is feeling. My baby was in danger and I am telling you...I was ready to kill someone in my pj's and bare feet!!!! for putting him in harm's way for what ever game they were playing with their guns!!! 2...I had 5 cruisers within minutes in my neighborhod!!! 3 ALL of my neighbors were standing there beside me in their jammies too!!!
Is there crime everywhere? Hell yes!!! It is the response to the crime that determines the credibility and worth of a neighborhood...of a society!!!!
So I am not ashamed anymore!!! I am damned proud of how we handled the situation!!! If only Aruba had done the same....Beth would have a place to mourn her lovely daughter, and Aruba would have earned our respect, not our anger.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #747 4/11 -
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Quote from: Buckeye on April 15, 2008, 09:11:57 PM
Quote from: klaasend on April 15, 2008, 08:19:23 PM
Just posted on the front page of SM:
vietvet wrote:
Sounds good to me #47, we boycott you and you boycott us. We can get by just fine. We don’t have to go to Aruba anyway. That is the general idea, boycott as in…do not go to Aruba. Let the island dry up and die. They never intended on giving Natalee justice, they are the ones who only want money…and ours too.
We will not stop the boycott until they return Natalee
.
Klaas
Was this posted from his usual IP? I ask because Julia Renfro, posting as Glenda (I say this because she gave a name for Vietvet), said a PI had talked to vietvet and viet vet would no longer be posting. Sorry Glenda....did the PI have Daniel, psychic in his name?
Perhaps there is a secret transcript? Expose? Documentary?
What reason could vietvet have for not posting? Perhaps Joran has turned himself into authorities? Come clean? Found his shoes?
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Sorry Lou ... I cannot get past the jammies and bare feet.
Janet
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Quote from: klaasend on April 15, 2008, 08:19:23 PM
Just posted on the front page of SM:
vietvet wrote:
Sounds good to me #47, we boycott you and you boycott us. We can get by just fine. We don’t have to go to Aruba anyway. That is the general idea, boycott as in…do not go to Aruba. Let the island dry up and die. They never intended on giving Natalee justice, they are the ones who only want money…and ours too.
We will not stop the boycott until they return Natalee
.
If any one had any doubts about Mountain Brooke's opinion on the Boycott..I think this says it all!!! Please. please join me in DC for the next protest...I think you might all be surprised by who may show up!!!
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