Natalee Case Discussion #762 6/30 - 7/6/08

[Observer]

Why would Klaas say or do anything? Now you are insulting me as a Moderator and insuiating that I will be changing posts? If I was gonna erase anything it would be the Lady comment that has you so riled up,that obviously was not the right choice of word and you took it out of context. You mean I got personal with a friend of your here that was lying about me,attacking me for no reason and trying to get me kicked off the forum because she is crazy?

*******,
lying about you? Attacking you? Trying to get you kicked off the forum?


Who's lying, attacking and taking things waaaaay out of context?
I might be crazy but according to me....that's not me.
Relax & calm down a bit please....

No worries GBMW..Its a couple of friends here lying about me so I will leave the forum or get banned..They are trying to push my buttons and all I can do is watch until I get the green light to set everything straight. It goes back a few months before you came here and I was told by Red not to discuss it or post what they did and continue to do. They should have told the truth months ago,so I wouldnt be going through this now..But they never quit and they saw the opportunity again today. Really low life tactics with no basis and all lies..Klaas can clear all this up in a heartbeat if she chooses..

I really do not like being lied about and slandered on a forum that I worked so hard at being fair,impartial and always standing up for he truth.

[Nut44x4]

O/T Klass...Brenda Horn in missing peeps is SAFE! Thanks.

[Blonde]

Johan van Schagen is taking command of the police force on Bonaire.
he took over from Jan van der Straten.

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/printer_44145.php


(Van der Straten on the right)

Van der Straten had a few advisories to the new police chief: 'make fast and clear decisions, especially regarding integrity".

caesu I took this over to our new  Jan van der Straten. thread

Klaas  or OB can you add Jan to the van der Straten= Jan van der Straten.

[klaasend]

Nut - done!  Nice to see "found safe"

Blonde - added Jan.  Thanks for adding that post to the Jan van der Straten thread.

[Sleuth]

Kermit - can you turn left onto LG Smith at that intersection?

I am not positive on that.

You absolutely could in 2005, although you needed to cross traffic. 

The frog's picture shows the car doing exactly that.




BTW, I was looking through last holiday photos and didn't remember this being taken..

[Rob]

about the Hendrik Croes/Maduro hit-and-run:

Amigoe forgot yesterday to publish this article.
they only published the reaction of Hendrik Croes.

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_44138.php

OM requested one week conditional prison for Hendrik Croes.
and four months conditional prison and 160 hours community service for Maduro. 

to clarify: Croes is the driver. Maduro is the victim.

17th july the judge will make his ruling.

tomorrow the article in english.
i thought nothing surprises me anymore but this is unbelievable.

I thought I had read this earlier....then I thought...no...must be a translation problem....and people wonder why witnesses are afraid to come forward....

and the cop that got ran over is still being charged as I understand - they WERE RIGHT! We just don't understand their system. Can ya imagine Buckeye - you run over a cop and the cop gets charged. Unfreakin' real.

it's bizarro world to the nth degree.

[klaasend]

Sleuth - good to see you and thanks for pointing that out in Kermit's picture.  So you could turn left at the intersection of DI onto LG Smith.

[Blonde]

GBMW, do you know anything about the next broadcast of Peter R.?
is it going to focus on PvdS? or was this just a rumor from Prive magazine?
and will this be broadcasted this autumn tv-season?

i realize however that Peter R. stays silent about what he is up to next.
to prevent the Van der Sloots anticipating on his next moves.

That Peter R. de Vries has found new stuff / got good new leads after the confession show: not just a rumour; but I don't know if there will actually be a new show...I don't know what it is / how big or how much has been checked from all kinds of angles.

PvdS: don't know...sorry.

PvdS: don't know...sorry. is that Palus Van der Sloot why are you sorry 

[Blonde]

Nut - done!  Nice to see "found safe"

Blonde - added Jan.  Thanks for adding that post to the Jan van der Straten thread.

Thank You

[Rob]

Hi Sleuth 

[Sleuth]

Sleuth - good to see you and thanks for pointing that out in Kermit's picture.  So you could turn left at the intersection of DI onto LG Smith.

Yes.  I have photos from back then looking at that same intersection, from the driver's perspective, showing clearly that a left was entirely possible back then.  I took a left at DI at that very intersection myself.

[GBMW]

Why would Klaas say or do anything? Now you are insulting me as a Moderator and insuiating that I will be changing posts? If I was gonna erase anything it would be the Lady comment that has you so riled up,that obviously was not the right choice of word and you took it out of context. You mean I got personal with a friend of your here that was lying about me,attacking me for no reason and trying to get me kicked off the forum because she is crazy?

*******,
lying about you? Attacking you? Trying to get you kicked off the forum?


Who's lying, attacking and taking things waaaaay out of context?
I might be crazy but according to me....that's not me.
Relax & calm down a bit please....

No worries GBMW..Its a couple of friends here lying about me so I will leave the forum or get banned..They are trying to push my buttons and all I can do is watch until I get the green light to set everything straight. It goes back a few months before you came here and I was told by Red not to discuss it or post what they did and continue to do. They should have told the truth months ago,so I wouldnt be going through this now..But they never quit and they saw the opportunity again today. Really low life tactics with no basis and all lies..Klaas can clear all this up in a heartbeat if she chooses..

I really do not like being lied about and slandered on a forum that I worked so hard at being fair,impartial and always standing up for he truth.

*******,
no matter what's going on between you, D & L...you were unkind & assuming the wrong things about me for no reason today....and guess what: I don't like being treated like that....just as you don't like it.

Whatever...this is so not interesting for other posters & there is no pm here so I'm just going to drop it.

Have a great evening.

[caesu]

about the Hendrik Croes/Maduro hit-and-run:

Amigoe forgot yesterday to publish this article.
they only published the reaction of Hendrik Croes.

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_44138.php

OM requested one week conditional prison for Hendrik Croes.
and four months conditional prison and 160 hours community service for Maduro. 

to clarify: Croes is the driver. Maduro is the victim.

17th july the judge will make his ruling.

tomorrow the article in english.
i thought nothing surprises me anymore but this is unbelievable.

I thought I had read this earlier....then I thought...no...must be a translation problem....and people wonder why witnesses are afraid to come forward....

and the cop that got ran over is still being charged as I understand - they WERE RIGHT! We just don't understand their system. Can ya imagine Buckeye - you run over a cop and the cop gets charged. Unfreakin' real.

it's bizarro world to the nth degree.

yes, Hendrik Croes is considering a further lawsuit against Maduro.
to make sure no one ever will stand in the way of Croes.

yesterday i read something about David Dick, the justice minister of the antilles.
he was caught driving through a red light, while make a phonecall (with his hand off the wheel), while driving without seatbelts.
three offenses simulatenous.
not fined.

http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/2008/01/het_gelijk_van_hero_brinkman.html

[GBMW]

GBMW, do you know anything about the next broadcast of Peter R.?
is it going to focus on PvdS? or was this just a rumor from Prive magazine?
and will this be broadcasted this autumn tv-season?

i realize however that Peter R. stays silent about what he is up to next.
to prevent the Van der Sloots anticipating on his next moves.

That Peter R. de Vries has found new stuff / got good new leads after the confession show: not just a rumour; but I don't know if there will actually be a new show...I don't know what it is / how big or how much has been checked from all kinds of angles.

PvdS: don't know...sorry.

PvdS: don't know...sorry. is that Palus Van der Sloot why are you sorry 

Yep, that's Paul van der Sloot and I'm sorry because I don't have the answer to C's question.

[caesu]

GBMW, do you know anything about the next broadcast of Peter R.?
is it going to focus on PvdS? or was this just a rumor from Prive magazine?
and will this be broadcasted this autumn tv-season?

i realize however that Peter R. stays silent about what he is up to next.
to prevent the Van der Sloots anticipating on his next moves.

That Peter R. de Vries has found new stuff / got good new leads after the confession show: not just a rumour; but I don't know if there will actually be a new show...I don't know what it is / how big or how much has been checked from all kinds of angles.

PvdS: don't know...sorry.

PvdS: don't know...sorry. is that Palus Van der Sloot why are you sorry 

i thinks she meant she doesn't know if the new show is about PvdS 

[Sleuth]

Sleuth - good to see you and thanks for pointing that out in Kermit's picture.  So you could turn left at the intersection of DI onto LG Smith.

Yes.  I have photos from back then looking at that same intersection, from the driver's perspective, showing clearly that a left was entirely possible back then.  I took a left at DI at that very intersection myself.

Here is a photo I took that will prove my statement.  Notice that DI was being painted at the time, and the bus stop area was being redone - that should put the timeframe in perspective.   

[Sleuth]

Hi Robbie 

Sorry, monkeys.....here is the photo.   

[Observer]

Why would Klaas say or do anything? Now you are insulting me as a Moderator and insuiating that I will be changing posts? If I was gonna erase anything it would be the Lady comment that has you so riled up,that obviously was not the right choice of word and you took it out of context. You mean I got personal with a friend of your here that was lying about me,attacking me for no reason and trying to get me kicked off the forum because she is crazy?

*******,
lying about you? Attacking you? Trying to get you kicked off the forum?


Who's lying, attacking and taking things waaaaay out of context?
I might be crazy but according to me....that's not me.
Relax & calm down a bit please....

No worries GBMW..Its a couple of friends here lying about me so I will leave the forum or get banned..They are trying to push my buttons and all I can do is watch until I get the green light to set everything straight. It goes back a few months before you came here and I was told by Red not to discuss it or post what they did and continue to do. They should have told the truth months ago,so I wouldnt be going through this now..But they never quit and they saw the opportunity again today. Really low life tactics with no basis and all lies..Klaas can clear all this up in a heartbeat if she chooses..

I really do not like being lied about and slandered on a forum that I worked so hard at being fair,impartial and always standing up for he truth.

*******,
no matter what's going on between you, D & L...you were unkind & assuming the wrong things about me for no reason today....and guess what: I don't like being treated like that....just as you don't like it.

Whatever...this is so not interesting for other posters & there is no pm here so I'm just going to drop it.

Have a great evening.

Actually I like you GBMW and I appreciate your posts,I was not trying to be unkind to you today,sorry for calling you a Lady or any bad feelings. I really wanted Patrick to be a Hero and never wanted to think he was anything but..Unfortunately everything about him leaves me with a very bad feeling and what he says and his actions do not add up,as you have said about me..I was one of Peter's biggest Fans and looked up to him greatly,until he went on record saying he solved the case and Beth is at peace.

I realize I am in the minority of my opinion of him and it leaves me open to people that want to lie about me and harm me. It goes with the terrortoity of always standing up for the truth and spending so much time trying to help Natalee and this forum. I dont have anything against those two posters,but obviously they have something against me and I wish they would get there facts straight instead of lying about me.

[klaasend]

Hi Robbie 

Sorry, monkeys.....here is the photo.   

Thanks again Sleuth

[CapsLockWizard]

Good evening Monky's

As I promissed before......here it is .....The DirtyHand in The Natalee Case.

I was betting that they will let the Lawyer go that was in Jail in the case of Mansur and he is out.

ALso Hendrik Croes with all the proef and still they will not convict.

So let look which prosecuter handled the case....Mr DirtyHand of the OM

Who was the Prosecuter that Handle tha Natalee Case.... Mr. DirtyHand.

This is the real deal....one in a while he will stick is neck out in the Publick....never seen alway behind the scene.

This is the writer of the Playdoy (the defender case) for mr Hendrick Croes

This is the man in a special case in a wire transfer in 2004 to a Hong Kong bank where from the Casino of the Holiday inn a sum in 500.000.00 was transfer and till today no one is arrested and till today it did not hit the paper. but someone did pay for it.

thnks body at www.24ora.com for the pic.

CAPS