Natalee Case Discussion #720 2/3 -

[Tylergal]

There was truth in it, the truth being he disposed of Natalee because he was finished with her.  No idea whether she had seized or whether he beat her to a pulp, but he is not going to admit, not even to a friend what he and his father did to her, nor that his father was the one who arranged for Steve Croes to take Natalee out to sea.  He had no reason to have her dumped at sea for a seizure and this psychotic SOB knows that.  He knows all "that shit" would be found if she was taken to a hospital and all of the sonofasloots would be in prison or hanged by the locals for what they did.

[Helen Back]

It is all a bonch of lie again....No body go in the mangoeves at night... No one..imposible...

They are going to swim with clothes from Night Club....

BS...

America do not let them play USA again...

He mention so many things that the allowable time can not be true

CAP It does not compute...

You're right......still not the whole story.  But enough for the world to know what a monster he is, and what a pack of liars Paulus and Anita are.  Enough for the world to know what Natalee's family has been through.

Joran has been covering for Paulus, and just blew it BIG TIME!

Frank was right.  In a way, we are just beginning.

Helen

[Blue Moon]

Add DAddy + Lorenzo = Daury
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Also Peter De Vries should retract his apology to the Kalpoes..They are a lot more involved then he thinks and so is RunningSweaty Man!

I think Depak, Satish and Joran had a deal with the Dr. Phil lawsuit. They would split the money and pay lawyers and still have enough to be set for life.  You are right, the Kalpoes are in this up to their eyeballs.  Papa Sloot is who picked him up and told him to go to school and acted natural.  That meeting was that night and the Kalpoes were there.

[nimrod]

covering for paulus........

paulis is the one

Yep.

[Tylergal]

I got locked out and braved my way into the pit from hell.  What a subdued crowd.  Where is Charlie Rat?  Is he just "dying" to defend Joran?  Is he on a plane right now to help his buddy out of this dilemma?  Where is Hannie?  What about Glenda?  She described what Joran did about feeling her dead flesh.  Glenda has read the transcript.  She read this years ago.  She knows Joran killed her and she has been paid off by someone to keep her mouth full of something other than the truth.

[Helen Back]

Not A "MURDERER"

How do you know?

How do you know that he and "daury" disposed of "lifeless" corpse?

Are they trained EMS technicians? Can they make dead or alive call?

OF COURSE NOT.

How did they know she was dead?

He describes routine sexual encounter on beach -- no crime, no nothing.  And she passes out. 

Why call Daury -- and not 911?  WHy dispose?

Because they had to....that's why.

He did not want to say that he beat her, and strangled her, and slammed her head against the rocks.  Because after all, all young women are just dying to have sex with "the sporter".  How does he look like "he-man" with Patrick, when he pulled a forcible rape against a helpless girl.  That has about as much "street cred" as stealing candy canes from Christmas Trees.

My ass.  This does not add up.

.

My ass too. 

If she just died, why did he say, "If they find her, I'm f***ed?

[KarmaRoundUp]

zondag 3 februari 2008
J: "First time in jail, I said dad, I need a phone. His dad got him the phone to Joran. My dad is so stupid, he got me a prepaid phone, with hardly any credit on it".

Joran also told this in his book, but then he didnt mention his dad brought it in.

P: "we spent a few days with joran, but we need some more info, we ask him to make joran teel it once more, just to be clear".

J:"These bitches asked me to come to C&C and they been drinking all day, some used cocaine. I didnt wanna go, I had school next day, but I knew she wanted to f*** (talks about Natalees girl), so I went anyway. I didnt even 'go' for Natalee. But her friend said: no Natalee got shotgun on you, so go talk to her... I went there, she came down from the bar. The ho jumped on teh bar and said: do a jellyshot... I then gave her a bacardi 151 (75% alcohol). She asked for a chaser, I see shes so drunk, but I thought: Im gonna f*** her. She said: I wanne see some sharks. Im telling you Pat, she wanted to see sharks. So I said to S&D, drop us on the beach, Ill f*** her, and then Ill take her to the hotel. We walk to the beach... She wasnt that good looking but the WANTED man, she wanted.... Then she started shaking like crazy... The beach was empty, I walked to her, no reaction, she just kept shaking, NO foam around her mouth... I started thinking, no one know I even left the house. But I knew this guy I "had" something on, so I phoned him. This DAURY, even if he wouldnt have helped me, he wouldnt have said anything... I called him from a payphone outside the Mariott. I picked Nat up and put her near the mangrovetreas at the mariott. The guy came and saidwhat happened, she looks sweet"....
Joran says: this cant be happening, this was around 02:30. This guy has his own boat, he worked for banana boat company... But he has his own boat as well. The guy said, this will be a problem, either way, youll be blamed. He sais, OK, help me, so we picked her up and put her on the boat. There was noone there, dark. Even IF someone wouldve seen us, they wouldve thought were playing... The guy told me I should go to school etc. I went to the casino the night after.... The shoe story is bullshit, I just threw them away, in a sewer. After I left the guy sailed away. he told me later he just dumped her. He came by the house that night, he said: she'll be missing, but they wont find her. I said: we should get our stories straight....
We did some thing before, so I know I could call him.
I knew, we should have our stories straight. D&S were just some dummies. It was great to make them say as well that we brought her to the hotel.. Now, looking back, I never couldve imagined this would get so much media coverage... But I can use that as an advantage"....
I only spent 2 hours with her. I fingerfucked her, she jerked me off, I just wanted to ask her for a blowjob went she started shaking... I didnt lose a nights sleep, I have to look good"
"I still talk to Joran to DAURY"....

I wonder if that translation should be"We did the SAME thing before"?

[Nut44x4]

I finally got back in....

So sad for the family....this is not the whole story.

Me too...took 4ever to get back in. Seems Daury has been located and he denies it saying he was in Rotterdam in school and it has been proven he was not on Aruba at that time. 4give me if this has been posted...I have not been able to read and catch up yet from being locked out by server

[nimrod]

His best friend ever said: "go on home. I'll take care of it, son".

[truthseeker2]

This comment from Mia is on Gretawire, in the responses to that vile email.

"Okay, one tidbit so far - The “friend” that Joran named as assisting to take Natalie’s body out to sea by boat calls the entire thing B.S. He was not even in Aruba at the time. He was shocked and angry that Joran said such a thing. Daury was at school in Rotterdam. And says the police can check it out.

"Turns out DeVries never contacted him to check out the story."

My search for "Daury-Aruba-Rotterdam" led me to this site. It had a photo of a guy in a baseball cap half an hour ago. Now it has this message. I can't read the words but the picture doesn't look very friendly.

http://www.partypeeps2000.com/members/Ghetto_Dogg.aspx

Here's the pic that was on that site:

[Bearlyhere]

This comment from Mia is on Gretawire, in the responses to that vile email.

"Okay, one tidbit so far - The “friend” that Joran named as assisting to take Natalie’s body out to sea by boat calls the entire thing B.S. He was not even in Aruba at the time. He was shocked and angry that Joran said such a thing. Daury was at school in Rotterdam. And says the police can check it out.

"Turns out DeVries never contacted him to check out the story."

My search for "Daury-Aruba-Rotterdam" led me to this site. It had a photo of a guy in a baseball cap half an hour ago. Now it has this message. I can't read the words but the picture doesn't look very friendly.

http://www.partypeeps2000.com/members/Ghetto_Dogg.aspx

I still see a picture.

[Puzzler]

There is no Daury!  Paulus is the only one who would have cared enough to help out Joran and tell him to go home and go to sleep and go to school tomorrow.  NO ONE ELSE would have cared whether or not Joran ever went to bed or to school.  IMO

I do believe Joran knows Natalee is dead (I'm sorry that eliminates the 1% of hope that Beth had of Natalee being alive).

BUT.....Joran has ALWAYS been very very protective of his father.  Paulus is the ONLY person that a don't give a sh*t personality like Joran's, would ever protect...that Joran would NEVER disclose his name...that Joran completely trusted.

Even the Kalpoes are not stupid enough to take all the heat they've taken if they really aren't involved (Joran totally exonerated them except for letting them off at the beach; i.e., driving Natalee in the car).

Remember.....if they find her, they will see that sh*t....your own father!

Some trust, some bald face lies...as always!!

Oh, and the shoes...they had DNA on them...if they see that sh*t...probably blood...IMO, I believe Joran kicked her and an angry outburst!!

[Tylergal]

His best friend ever said: "go on home. I'll take care of it, son".

And then his father called Steve Croes.  Haven't we been told that Steve's uncle had a boat?

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[Lala'sMom]

NO BODY  NO CASE

Joran confesses he got rid of the body...this will be less than 6 months on Aruba...Joran will not be arrested...he will not serve any more time...I think he's already served almost that much from all his arrests...Kalpoes are just stupid...Joran's word against Daury...unknown person, I might add...no body, she's gone....now us stupid Americans shut up about it all and leave Aruba to continue as usual...One Happy Island again.

[AnnieMW1]

Oduber: We are VERYangry with Joran Van Der Sloot! After all we have done for him -- covering up he and his father's murder, spending millions of florins on advertising, hush money, and rock painting. After 2.5 years, we even clear his name -- how does he pay us back? -- he blabs the truth to the WHOLE WORLD!
Monday mornig we will officially cancel our plans to erect his Satue on the capital grounds.

Too funny.  Hello Monkeys.  Go Patriots...and let's get SOMEBODY in jail.

[SunnyinTX]

I got locked out and braved my way into the pit from hell.  What a subdued crowd.  Where is Charlie Rat?  Is he just "dying" to defend Joran?  Is he on a plane right now to help his buddy out of this dilemma?  Where is Hannie?  What about Glenda?  She described what Joran did about feeling her dead flesh.  Glenda has read the transcript.  She read this years ago.  She knows Joran killed her and she has been paid off by someone to keep her mouth full of something other than the truth.

   

I had to do the same thing...... I do have to say one thing....many of them now know they have been duped by a 17yo maniac.....Hannie did post that this is the first time she has EVER felt sympathy for Beth (welcome to the real world hannie) and told the animals over there that seeing it is a lot different from just reading about it...of course some are feeling great sorry for anita and papa pervert too....give me a frigging BREAK!!  So what is tacopenis going to spin next...I am so DAMN MAD I can't stop shaking!!

[Sue]

I wonder what all the Joran supporter think now?
how many of them have switched sides of the fence now
and how many will spin this like a top

[SunnyinTX]

Not A "MURDERER"

How do you know?

How do you know that he and "daury" disposed of "lifeless" corpse?

Are they trained EMS technicians? Can they make dead or alive call?

OF COURSE NOT.

How did they know she was dead?

He describes routine sexual encounter on beach -- no crime, no nothing.  And she passes out. 

Why call Daury -- and not 911?  WHy dispose?

Because they had to....that's why.

He did not want to say that he beat her, and strangled her, and slammed her head against the rocks.  Because after all, all young women are just dying to have sex with "the sporter".  How does he look like "he-man" with Patrick, when he pulled a forcible rape against a helpless girl.  That has about as much "street cred" as stealing candy canes from Christmas Trees.

My ass.  This does not add up.

.

My ass too. 

If she just died, why did he say, "If they find her, I'm f***ed?

and why did he have to get rid of his shoes!!

[Pita]

Daury

http://www.hi5.com/friend/3664670--Daury--Profile-html