Natalee Case Discussion #734 2/21 - 2/24/08

[private eye]

Klaasend....interesting quote from the link and photo of 24 hora you just posted....


Clandestino said: _
     Aruba...........One BABYLON BIJ OMZET Island!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 23, 2008


What does BIJ OMZET mean?  Anyone know? TIA...Dest

That totally caught my eye too.

I googled it...no literal translation...but everythin I found came up *omzet* pertaining to financial/econimic englich terms...need Rosetta Stone...LOL

Babelfish says : 'at turnover'

??

That would be pretty cool if the island of Aruba did simply turn over. Maybe if we all pray hard enough:)

[Destiny]

I knew Joe T had sh*t for brains, but I had never seen it seeping out his scalp before. Joran must really be taxing his thought process. Of course he did look so bloated that he may be stopped up and it had no where else to go.

And I thought he represented the opposite view, Joran, perfectly. He looked like a cheap, slime ball attorney, and when he spoke, he removed all doubt.

Private Eye...that was my take on him too...I think he was thrown in at the end for just that purpose...right down to the bling bling around his fat neck

[private eye]

I knew Joe T had sh*t for brains, but I had never seen it seeping out his scalp before. Joran must really be taxing his thought process. Of course he did look so bloated that he may be stopped up and it had no where else to go.

And I thought he represented the opposite view, Joran, perfectly. He looked like a cheap, slime ball attorney, and when he spoke, he removed all doubt.

Private Eye...that was my take on him too...I think he was thrown in at the end for just that purpose...right down to the bling bling around his fat neck

He looked funny though, even for him. He is obviously ill I think, or a serious alcoholic almost in need of dialysis and a hair dresser. I wonder what happened to him?

[wreck]

I knew Joe T had sh*t for brains, but I had never seen it seeping out his scalp before. Joran must really be taxing his thought process. Of course he did look so bloated that he may be stopped up and it had no where else to go.

And I thought he represented the opposite view, Joran, perfectly. He looked like a cheap, slime ball attorney, and when he spoke, he removed all doubt.

Yeah, it is pretty pitiful when your attorney's only defense is "you cannot believe my client was telling the truth, because he is a (murdering) liar."

[Destiny]

I knew Joe T had sh*t for brains, but I had never seen it seeping out his scalp before. Joran must really be taxing his thought process. Of course he did look so bloated that he may be stopped up and it had no where else to go.

And I thought he represented the opposite view, Joran, perfectly. He looked like a cheap, slime ball attorney, and when he spoke, he removed all doubt.

Private Eye...that was my take on him too...I think he was thrown in at the end for just that purpose...right down to the bling bling around his fat neck

He looked funny though, even for him. He is obviously ill I think, or a serious alcoholic almost in need of dialysis and a hair dresser. I wonder what happened to him?

Or...he's had so much hot air blown up his ass...he's just inflated ...

[hotping]

I knew Joe T had sh*t for brains, but I had never seen it seeping out his scalp before. Joran must really be taxing his thought process. Of course he did look so bloated that he may be stopped up and it had no where else to go.

And I thought he represented the opposite view, Joran, perfectly. He looked like a cheap, slime ball attorney, and when he spoke, he removed all doubt.

Private Eye...that was my take on him too...I think he was thrown in at the end for just that purpose...right down to the bling bling around his fat neck

He looked funny though, even for him. He is obviously ill I think, or a serious alcoholic almost in need of dialysis and a hair dresser. I wonder what happened to him?

Or...he's had so much hot air blown up his ass...he's just inflated ...

Perfect Diagnosis!   

[anidac]

There were 2 visit to the ATM and there were 2 text messages.

3:00 am...........?Someone makes withdrawl from Paulus’ account @ Aruba Bank ATM across from Mcdonalds?

Yes and the other one I believe was 3:45...yes yes.

Sounds like half up front & half upon completing the job.   Only real problem is that ATM's world wide have transaction and daily withdrawl limits that are set both by the ATM machine owner or bank and your own personal bank limits.  All of which can vary.  If the withdrawls where payments for disposal, I have to think it was a young person/people or someone without the means of having money of their own.  In other words, not someone like Lorenzo or other more experienced criminal with drug money etc.  (just rambling words from a very stressed out grandma that needs a break from my career and these two grandsons I seem to keep getting for the weekends).  

Back to reading now.

[private eye]

I knew Joe T had sh*t for brains, but I had never seen it seeping out his scalp before. Joran must really be taxing his thought process. Of course he did look so bloated that he may be stopped up and it had no where else to go.

And I thought he represented the opposite view, Joran, perfectly. He looked like a cheap, slime ball attorney, and when he spoke, he removed all doubt.

Yeah, it is pretty pitiful when your attorney's only defense is "you cannot believe my client was telling the truth, because he is a (murdering) liar."

At least he told the truth about Joran, at long last. Now even Joran's attorney thinks he is a liar. Of course, Joran might should join the mob as a hit man. He has a get out of jail card for crimes involving murder, since a liar can't be convicted of murder in Aruba. So far, his hired defense team and his bribed Aruban officals have reported that he is a liar and has a personality disorder. The warden at the prsion said he has had an anger management problem since he was a small child that is so severe that he wasn't surprised to see Joran in jail. The warden also said that his size made him a bully with weaker peers but that despite his size, he got his ass whooped by a small inmate for running his mouth. So he is also a known bully. And they thought his kindergarten teacher just did not like him when she tried to tell Udder Joran had a personality problem , was a bully and a liar when he was 5. 

[private eye]

I knew Joe T had sh*t for brains, but I had never seen it seeping out his scalp before. Joran must really be taxing his thought process. Of course he did look so bloated that he may be stopped up and it had no where else to go.

And I thought he represented the opposite view, Joran, perfectly. He looked like a cheap, slime ball attorney, and when he spoke, he removed all doubt.

Private Eye...that was my take on him too...I think he was thrown in at the end for just that purpose...right down to the bling bling around his fat neck

He looked funny though, even for him. He is obviously ill I think, or a serious alcoholic almost in need of dialysis and a hair dresser. I wonder what happened to him?

Or...he's had so much hot air blown up his ass...he's just inflated ...

Perfect Diagnosis!   

You reckon he has a fetish for nozzles and an air compressor????????

[Red]

I just got off the phone with our Boycott - Justice for Natalee Monkeys.

Sounds like we need to give them major kudos for weathering the cold and snow conditions in Boston. Temp is about 30 with windchill.

They have some great stories, pics and videos that they will be sharing really soon.

Sounds like the Boston PD was none to happy with them and they stood their ground for Natalee like the true Monkeys they are.

GREAT JOB

[Destiny]

I knew Joe T had sh*t for brains, but I had never seen it seeping out his scalp before. Joran must really be taxing his thought process. Of course he did look so bloated that he may be stopped up and it had no where else to go.

And I thought he represented the opposite view, Joran, perfectly. He looked like a cheap, slime ball attorney, and when he spoke, he removed all doubt.

Private Eye...that was my take on him too...I think he was thrown in at the end for just that purpose...right down to the bling bling around his fat neck

He looked funny though, even for him. He is obviously ill I think, or a serious alcoholic almost in need of dialysis and a hair dresser. I wonder what happened to him?

Or...he's had so much hot air blown up his ass...he's just inflated ...

Perfect Diagnosis!   

You reckon he has a fetish for nozzles and an air compressor????????

Probably not...he's  a lawyer-wanna-be doll...only brought out and inflated for media events...I must say he's looking pretty rode hard, and put up wet these days....time to retire him to the closet with the worn out Renho doll...

[Destiny]

I just got off the phone with our Boycott - Justice for Natalee Monkeys.

Sounds like we need to give them major kudos for weathering the cold and snow conditions in Boston. Temp is about 30 with windchill.

They have some great stories, pics and videos that they will be sharing really soon.

Sounds like the Boston PD was none to happy with them and they stood their ground for Natalee like the true Monkeys they are.

GREAT JOB

Thank You Red....Monkeys Rock!

[klaasend]

I just got off the phone with our Boycott - Justice for Natalee Monkeys.

Sounds like we need to give them major kudos for weathering the cold and snow conditions in Boston. Temp is about 30 with windchill.

They have some great stories, pics and videos that they will be sharing really soon.

Sounds like the Boston PD was none to happy with them and they stood their ground for Natalee like the true Monkeys they are.

GREAT JOB

KUDOS to them!  Hope they haven't been arrested    We may have to take up a collection to bail them out 

[private eye]

Beth took the false finding of the crab cage with the bone really hard. When she thought she had actually found Natalee's remains her strength vanished and she fell apart for a day or so.

People think they are ready for the end of life for a loved one, even if the person has been in a coma for 10 or more years, yet when that day actually comes, despite being prepared outwardly for all intents and purposes, despite having every reason to consider it a blessing, they are actually not prepared in the least.

 Beth's loss was not an apparent blessing to her by any means, but after everything she has been thru it seems as if she is prepared to find Natalee's remains and she thought she was. She wasn't, she isn't, but she must try. And she will be stronger once she finds her and gets to symbolicly say goodbye, I love you, and have her laid to rest where Beth knows she is and can visit. Funerals are for the living and they are so important in helping the living say goodbye and letting go of the dead.

[wreck]

Beth took the false finding of the crab cage with the bone really hard. When she thought she had actually found Natalee's remains her strength vanished and she fell apart for a day or so.

People think they are ready for the end of life for a loved one, even if the person has been in a coma for 10 or more years, yet when that day actually comes, despite being prepared outwardly for all intents and purposes, despite having every reason to consider it a blessing, they are actually not prepared in the least.

 Beth's loss was not an apparent blessing to her by any means, but after everything she has been thru it seems as if she is prepared to find Natalee's remains and she thought she was. She wasn't, she isn't, but she must try. And she will be stronger once she finds her and gets to symbolicly say goodbye, I love you, and have her laid to rest where Beth knows she is and can visit. Funerals are for the living and they are so important in helping the living say goodbye and letting go of the dead.

Thanks for sharing. It is just unfamthomable what she has been through. She is remarkable!

[private eye]

I just got off the phone with our Boycott - Justice for Natalee Monkeys.

Sounds like we need to give them major kudos for weathering the cold and snow conditions in Boston. Temp is about 30 with windchill.

They have some great stories, pics and videos that they will be sharing really soon.

Sounds like the Boston PD was none to happy with them and they stood their ground for Natalee like the true Monkeys they are.

GREAT JOB

KUDOS to them!  Hope they haven't been arrested    We may have to take up a collection to bail them out 

Paul Revere would be proud of them. They are Natalee's Liberty Bell and they are ringing loudly in protest of Aruba and of her injustice, even in the snow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hotping]

I just got off the phone with our Boycott - Justice for Natalee Monkeys.

Sounds like we need to give them major kudos for weathering the cold and snow conditions in Boston. Temp is about 30 with windchill.

They have some great stories, pics and videos that they will be sharing really soon.

Sounds like the Boston PD was none to happy with them and they stood their ground for Natalee like the true Monkeys they are.

GREAT JOB

KUDOS to them!  Hope they haven't been arrested    We may have to take up a collection to bail them out 

If they do get arrested...God Forbid..I'll pitch in....

[Tamikosmom]

I was mixed up and watched 20 /20 last night. For two hours, sort of, Medical Mysteries and some other junk, I kept waiting the entire time for the topic to go to what I was sitting there for. NBC must have had a lot of commercials, because when I flipped thru the channels, I didn't catch on until today.
Oh well, YTube for moi.

LOL

Kat ... my fellow Canuck ...

Hubby and I went out for the evening and ... as usual ... I trusted him to set up the VCR.  I had provided him with specific instructions ... "DATELINE/Channel 16".

On the 15 minute drive to our friends ... in conversation ... the tope of DATELINE came up and ... a shocked/panicked expension came over hubby's entire face.  He conceded that he set the VCR for "20/20/Channel 6".

This guy knew if he valued our 42 year marriage ... he was going to have to turn around.  We were 20 minutes late but ... the Thai  dinner I was anticipating had yet to be delivered.

MSNBC has provided a very comprehensive transcript of the Dateline Natalee Holloway Special.

Janet


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23301056/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23301056/page/2/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23301056/page/3/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23301056/page/4/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23301056/page/5/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23301056/page/6/

[JusticeDawg]

Does anyone know if this is Joran?

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=338540994
 
JusticeDawg

[klaasend]

Does anyone know if this is Joran?

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=338540994
 
JusticeDawg

Could be, but it could also be one of the fake Joran sites.  The photos on this myspace are readily available to anyone.  Hard to tell.