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WhiskeyGirl
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #722 2/4 -
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February 04, 2008, 11:45:40 PM »
If Joran went to sleep after he got home and signed on the computer, who downloaded the porn? Checked the sports scores? Did email?
Who fixed a snack and took a shower?
When did he have time to sleep that morning?
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Quote from: Yellow Ribbon on February 04, 2008, 11:44:23 PM
Hey Angie, you sexy thang!
I just had to say that on a night like tonight.
LMAO OMG.. its been a LONG time since we said that, huh?
Hey you sexy thang back at yah YR !! Hope all has been well with you !! Great to see yah !!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #722 2/4 -
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February 04, 2008, 11:46:08 PM »
Quote from: robots on February 04, 2008, 11:43:21 PM
excellent job Red !
fantastic support you were for many many people
so many pulled together- and you were leading many times
as i mentioned one crazy day there were some lessons that i hope people will never forget... i know i will never forget
Hope is a good thing, sometimes the best thing and sometimes its all we have.
my job is done here..
be well
Robots
You aren't going anywhere!!
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ldstlou
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #722 2/4 -
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February 04, 2008, 11:46:13 PM »
Quote from: robots on February 04, 2008, 11:43:21 PM
excellent job Red !
fantastic support you were for many many people
so many pulled together- and you were leading many times
as i mentioned one crazy day there were some lessons that i hope people will never forget... i know i will never forget
Hope is a good thing, sometimes the best thing and sometimes its all we have.
my job is done here..
be well
Robots
Robots, you wrote one of my all time favorite posts. I saved it:
Quote
Hope is a Good thing, maybe the best of all time
it ain't a strategy but its sometimes all you got.
amazing, all of the people involved that kept the search going from top to bottom
when one hit a dead end, others kept digging and searching and writing and typing
and talking and writing letters, and ranting and fighting for the same cause
jossy, peter, red, tim miller, nancy grace, beth, dave, jug, monkeys from everywhere
on the earth, people from other blogs, websites, newsletters, search groups, prayer
vigils, candles being lit, etc etc etc
people that will never meet each other face to face nor ever speak to each other on a telephone and it makes you wonder if EVEN just one group didn't do their part if the results would be the same. the baton was handed around and we didn't even know it.
someone or some group would get tired and another bunch would step up and carry them until they rested and could go onward.
make no mistake about it. there is a lesson here. maybe several lessons.
there are good people everywhere. i will try and never forget that
robots
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #722 2/4 -
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Quote from: CapsLockWizard on February 04, 2008, 11:39:06 PM
Quote from: ******* on February 04, 2008, 11:32:34 PM
Quote from: Blue Moon of KY on February 04, 2008, 11:26:53 PM
Quote from: ******* on February 04, 2008, 11:21:31 PM
Some of these quotes were left out on the American broadcast. I still think he told a little truth amongst his BS that he fed to Patrick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmNyRMUYCNo
"Its a Big Ocean"
"I was very lucky to get away with it"
"If they would have found the girl I would have been screwed"
"She will never be found again"
"They dropped her into the sea?Yes? Yes"
"Im prefer not to tell names,Because he has always had my back"
"Look,this friend is quite clever and he's a bit older,We have been friends since kids"
"I've never told anyone about this man.Its not easy"
"I'll never tell his name,I will take it to my grave"
"
I'd give my life to help him"[
/b]
Think maybe someone is putting the squeeze on him for a payoff? Remember he talks about getting money and giving some of it to this guy who helped him? Maybe Paulus is having money problems and needs cash quick? (MO)
Did you see PVDS had big plans to sue the GOVT again for a huuge payoff?
*******, Its getting there, All the statement in red is a lie, the reset is "TRUE"
Look,this friend is quite clever and
he's a bit older
,We have been friends
since kids
"
"I've
never told anyone
about
this man
.Its not easy"
"I'll never tell his name,
I will take it to my grave
"
This just struck me, I haven't had this thought for long.
Do you think this friend is a child molester he has never told anyone about?
If he was a kid and the person was older?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #722 2/4 -
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February 04, 2008, 11:48:24 PM »
Quote from: WhiskeyGirl on February 04, 2008, 11:45:40 PM
If Joran went to sleep after he got home and signed on the computer, who downloaded the porn? Checked the sports scores? Did email?
Who fixed a snack and took a shower?
When did he have time to sleep that morning?
Joran must have meant he went to sleep right after doing all that.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #722 2/4 -
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February 04, 2008, 11:49:36 PM »
Quote from: klaasend on February 04, 2008, 11:48:24 PM
Quote from: WhiskeyGirl on February 04, 2008, 11:45:40 PM
If Joran went to sleep after he got home and signed on the computer, who downloaded the porn? Checked the sports scores? Did email?
Who fixed a snack and took a shower?
When did he have time to sleep that morning?
Joran must have meant he went to sleep right after doing all that.
Well, you know he only needed a quick little cat nap as he could always sleep on the floor all day at school....
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We will never forget you sweet Caylee!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #722 2/4 -
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February 04, 2008, 11:49:42 PM »
Quote from: Dayhiker on February 04, 2008, 11:37:34 PM
Quote from: Red on February 04, 2008, 11:18:44 PM
I got a call from Beth today thanking me and all of Scared Monkeys for our unending support from the beginning of this case. Thru think and thin we were there as a shoulder to lean on.
I thought to myself, I appreciated Beth's comments, however, felt awkward as I couldn't imagine taking any other position or fighting for someone more than Beth, Dave and Natalee's family.
The injustice needed justice and needed to never be forgotten. This case has provided many other cases to get media attention as well. From the outset of this case all of us here called the very scenarios that Joran had admitted to. I have had inside info into the Aruba ways and life styles because of past experiences. I have met over the years people like Rudy Croes and Oduber. Of course at this point they probably rue that day ever occurred. However, I am glad to have drawn from those experiences to be able to help Beth.
....... (cut)
God bless you Beth and may this be the beginning of you finally getting answers and peace.
Thank you Monkeys ...
There is no finer cause than this cause. SM has been a battleground for Good versus Evil and I think the good guys won tonite.
I believe you are right. The walls are closing in on Joran.
I was pleasantly surprised at ABC tonight stressing the point to the world that JVDS made no effort to help a girl in distress. His first thought was to dispose of her. No call to an ambulance or paramedic, nothing. Then without knowing where she was dead ... making sure of it.
When ABC last interviewed Joran this was hardly the stance they took. Congrats ABC. Welcome to the world of common sense thinking folk.
Also tonight Joran last his last biggest fan, Greta. She was made to look like an ass by Joran and Tacopina for years. Tonight she ate crow.
It takes time, sometimes longer than many of us have the patience for ... but Good always conquers over Evil.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #722 2/4 -
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February 04, 2008, 11:49:45 PM »
Quote from: Angiex911dsptchr on February 04, 2008, 11:44:36 PM
Quote from: Kermit on February 04, 2008, 11:41:47 PM
"He went out to sea and then he threw her out, like an old rag,"
van der Sloot told Aruban businessman Patrick van der Eem on January 16.
THAT made me sixck ot hear Froggy.. I STILL think he killed ker.
BUT.. part of me wonders IF.. just IF. wonder if she wasnt dead.. and she was tossed into the sea alive?
I think she was most likely dead and he knows it. The blood was due to something.
He would have just left her on the beach like all the other girls he victimized and raped except he couldn't
this time because of what he did that caused her death.
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Tamikosmom
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #722 2/4 -
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February 04, 2008, 11:49:55 PM »
Well Art ... you were right! It took almost three years but ... the house of cards which Aruba built is beginning to collapse big time and ... who would have ever guessed ... it was the ACE who initiated the collapse.
Janet
+++++++++++++++++
Art Wood
'Rita Cosby Live & Direct'
December 1, 2005
WOOD: ..... The reason this case could still be solved is because there are so many people involved in Natalee's disappearance and in the disposal of her body. When somebody talks, they're going to all go down. This is like a house of cards.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #722 2/4 -
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February 04, 2008, 11:49:59 PM »
Quote from: robots on February 04, 2008, 11:43:21 PM
excellent job Red !
fantastic support you were for many many people
so many pulled together- and you were leading many times
as i mentioned one crazy day there were some lessons that i hope people will never forget... i know i will never forget
Hope is a good thing, sometimes the best thing and sometimes its all we have.
my job is done here..
be well
Robots
Amen to everything you said, but I don't think our work is quite over. We need to still FIND Natalee and make sure
ALL
of those involved are
exposed
. In my books -- the boycott is JUST BEGINNING.
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Noly
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February 04, 2008, 11:50:03 PM »
i wish i would've taped it.
i thought i heard it said that the friends boat was one that was in the water already that night?
did anybody else hear that? it was when they showed the boats sitting in the water near shore.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #722 2/4 -
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February 04, 2008, 11:50:52 PM »
Quote from: Angiex911dsptchr on February 04, 2008, 11:44:36 PM
Quote from: Kermit on February 04, 2008, 11:41:47 PM
"He went out to sea and then he threw her out, like an old rag,"
van der Sloot told Aruban businessman Patrick van der Eem on January 16.
THAT made me sixck ot hear Froggy.. I STILL think he killed ker.
BUT.. part of me wonders IF.. just IF. wonder if she wasnt dead.. and she was tossed into the sea alive?
I believe that part is a lie. He wants you to believe there is a possibily that she was alive because if that is the case he won't be charged with murder. In my opinion she was never alive. He was never at the beach and even the ALE said he was never at the beach.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #722 2/4 -
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He pulled the name Duary out of his butt... the very telling thing that jvds said among the other things was that " my parents didn't help me".... that came out of no where without any reason.... sublimal slip - you know sort of like "my friend's dream" or "my friend's symptons".... ya know.. Red and I dropped our mouths open and just kind of flipped .... so it is true...
Duary... = PVDS... no doubt in my mind now...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #722 2/4 -
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February 04, 2008, 11:51:36 PM »
Quote from: robots on February 04, 2008, 11:43:21 PM
excellent job Red !
fantastic support you were for many many people
so many pulled together- and you were leading many times
as i mentioned one crazy day there were some lessons that i hope people will never forget... i know i will never forget
Hope is a good thing, sometimes the best thing and sometimes its all we have.
my job is done here..
be well
Robots
AND JUST WHERE THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE GOING? Did you EVER have a bunny kick your steel ASS?
There is a first for everything.. You get back in here.. or no cigars for you.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #722 2/4 -
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February 04, 2008, 11:52:00 PM »
Quote from: Kermit on February 04, 2008, 11:49:45 PM
Quote from: Angiex911dsptchr on February 04, 2008, 11:44:36 PM
Quote from: Kermit on February 04, 2008, 11:41:47 PM
"He went out to sea and then he threw her out, like an old rag,"
van der Sloot told Aruban businessman Patrick van der Eem on January 16.
THAT made me sixck ot hear Froggy.. I STILL think he killed ker.
BUT.. part of me wonders IF.. just IF. wonder if she wasnt dead.. and she was tossed into the sea alive?
I think she was most likely dead and he knows it. The blood was due to something.
He would have just left her on the beach like all the other girls he victimized and raped except he couldn't
this time because of what he did that caused her death.
Yep.... cause "Natalee fell and hit her head".....
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We will never forget you sweet Caylee!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #722 2/4 -
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Reply #596 on:
February 04, 2008, 11:52:06 PM »
Quote from: ldstlou on February 04, 2008, 11:46:13 PM
Quote from: robots on February 04, 2008, 11:43:21 PM
excellent job Red !
fantastic support you were for many many people
so many pulled together- and you were leading many times
as i mentioned one crazy day there were some lessons that i hope people will never forget... i know i will never forget
Hope is a good thing, sometimes the best thing and sometimes its all we have.
my job is done here..
be well
Robots
Robots, you wrote one of my all time favorite posts. I saved it:
Quote
Hope is a Good thing, maybe the best of all time
it ain't a strategy but its sometimes all you got.
amazing, all of the people involved that kept the search going from top to bottom
when one hit a dead end, others kept digging and searching and writing and typing
and talking and writing letters, and ranting and fighting for the same cause
jossy, peter, red, tim miller, nancy grace, beth, dave, jug, monkeys from everywhere
on the earth, people from other blogs, websites, newsletters, search groups, prayer
vigils, candles being lit, etc etc etc
people that will never meet each other face to face nor ever speak to each other on a telephone and it makes you wonder if EVEN just one group didn't do their part if the results would be the same. the baton was handed around and we didn't even know it.
someone or some group would get tired and another bunch would step up and carry them until they rested and could go onward.
make no mistake about it. there is a lesson here. maybe several lessons.
there are good people everywhere. i will try and never forget that
robots
Robots ... its not done yet.
There is still some unfinished business.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #722 2/4 -
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February 04, 2008, 11:52:18 PM »
Quote from: Red on February 04, 2008, 11:49:42 PM
Quote from: Dayhiker on February 04, 2008, 11:37:34 PM
Quote from: Red on February 04, 2008, 11:18:44 PM
I got a call from Beth today thanking me and all of Scared Monkeys for our unending support from the beginning of this case. Thru think and thin we were there as a shoulder to lean on.
I thought to myself, I appreciated Beth's comments, however, felt awkward as I couldn't imagine taking any other position or fighting for someone more than Beth, Dave and Natalee's family.
The injustice needed justice and needed to never be forgotten. This case has provided many other cases to get media attention as well. From the outset of this case all of us here called the very scenarios that Joran had admitted to. I have had inside info into the Aruba ways and life styles because of past experiences. I have met over the years people like Rudy Croes and Oduber. Of course at this point they probably rue that day ever occurred. However, I am glad to have drawn from those experiences to be able to help Beth.
....... (cut)
God bless you Beth and may this be the beginning of you finally getting answers and peace.
Thank you Monkeys ...
There is no finer cause than this cause. SM has been a battleground for Good versus Evil and I think the good guys won tonite.
I believe you are right. The walls are closing in on Joran.
I was pleasantly surprised at ABC tonight stressing the point to the world that JVDS made no effort to help a girl in distress. His first thought was to dispose of her. No call to an ambulance or paramedic, nothing. Then without knowing where she was dead ... making sure of it.
When ABC last interviewed Joran this was hardly the stance they took. Congrats ABC. Welcome to the world of common sense thinking folk.
Also tonight Joran last his last biggest fan, Greta. She was made to look like an ass by Joran and Tacopina for years. Tonight she ate crow.
It takes time, sometimes longer than many of us have the patience for ... but Good always conquers over Evil.
Well said Red.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #722 2/4 -
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Quote from: mrs. red on February 04, 2008, 11:51:09 PM
He pulled the name Duary out of his butt... the very telling thing that jvds said among the other things was that " my parents didn't help me".... that came out of no where without any reason.... sublimal slip - you know sort of like "my friend's dream" or "my friend's symptons".... ya know.. Red and I dropped our mouths open and just kind of flipped .... so it is true...
Duary... = PVDS... no doubt in my mind now...
absolutely no doubt. You are so right Mrs. Red
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #722 2/4 -
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Quote from: mrs. red on February 04, 2008, 11:51:09 PM
He pulled the name Duary out of his butt... the very telling thing that jvds said among the other things was that " my parents didn't help me".... that came out of no where without any reason.... sublimal slip - you know sort of like "my friend's dream" or "my friend's symptons".... ya know.. Red and I dropped our mouths open and just kind of flipped .... so it is true...
Duary... = PVDS... no doubt in my mind now...
ITA
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"Natalee deserves to return to her country...."
~ Beth Holloway Twitty ~
Fly free with the angels KK!
We will never forget you sweet Caylee!
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===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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