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Lucky7
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, PORTLAND, OR #21 8/17/10 -
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let me try the link to the map again
http://home.comcast.net/~andytom/Highways/htmlScripts/OR/I205-ORWA.xml
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, PORTLAND, OR #21 8/17/10 -
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Blink On Crime - Kristian Horman »
The Landscaper, in his white truck,
on her property, demanding his ... the role of an associate of the landscaper turned alleged assassin, was present. It was also confirmed a bulk of the incident was overheard on the police scanner. ... June 26, Multnomah County Detectives advised Kaine Horman that his wife had ...
blinkoncrime.com/category/kyron-horman/kristian-horman/ - Cached
Thank-you, Blonde.
Interesting, curious, the same model as Kaine's? Where is RS now? He was in INS custody. Thank-you for your updates & Pic's.
At this link it says he's Released
http://www.mcso.us/PAID/BookingDetail.aspx?ID=j2fROvstUkZ9eSRaCJS85w==
Icould be wrong, but I think he is now in federal custody.
Thank-you, Gypsy! I will sniff around the net.
He was in federal custody, and may still be, but today I learned he was moved.
Anselmo Sanchez? Rudy a nickname?
Potective custody, State protective witness program?
Blink do you know where Sanchez was moved to?
If he is in Federal custody he's most likely at Sheridan where the Federal prison is. I knew a Mexican guy picked up on a drug charge and after going to court in Portland he was sent to Sheridan for about a month and then driven with several other prisoners down to a Fed facility in Az, maybe New Mexico to serve his time before he was then sent back to Mexico. It was about 10 yrs ago.
Thank you for your response Scandi.
He was in Sheridan for the past few weeks.
I think Blink is saying he was moved from there today. I am wondering if anyone knows the next stop after Sheridan when you are on a USM hold? Sounds like you feel he may be in a federal prison in Arizonia or New Mexico..interesting.
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, PORTLAND, OR #21 8/17/10 -
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Quote from: seahorse on August 19, 2010, 04:12:41 PM
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Blink On Crime - Kristian Horman »
The Landscaper, in his white truck,
on her property, demanding his ... the role of an associate of the landscaper turned alleged assassin, was present. It was also confirmed a bulk of the incident was overheard on the police scanner. ... June 26, Multnomah County Detectives advised Kaine Horman that his wife had ...
blinkoncrime.com/category/kyron-horman/kristian-horman/ - Cached
Thank-you, Blonde.
Interesting, curious, the same model as Kaine's? Where is RS now? He was in INS custody. Thank-you for your updates & Pic's.
At this link it says he's Released
http://www.mcso.us/PAID/BookingDetail.aspx?ID=j2fROvstUkZ9eSRaCJS85w==
Icould be wrong, but I think he is now in federal custody.
Thank-you, Gypsy! I will sniff around the net.
He was in federal custody, and may still be, but today I learned he was moved.
Anselmo Sanchez? Rudy a nickname?
Potective custody, State protective witness program?
Blink do you know where Sanchez was moved to?
If he is in Federal custody he's most likely at Sheridan where the Federal prison is. I knew a Mexican guy picked up on a drug charge and after going to court in Portland he was sent to Sheridan for about a month and then driven with several other prisoners down to a Fed facility in Az, maybe New Mexico to serve his time before he was then sent back to Mexico. It was about 10 yrs ago.
TY Scandi, good info. I forgot the prison system transfer prisoners around to other States, wonder why?
I think one reason is there are certain facilities for certain types of prisoners. This guy I spoke of was found guilty on a felony drug charge and was an illegal alien. The facility where he ended up right north of the border was where they send all the guys with his particular situation. He served his sentence there of several years and was then driven across the border.
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, PORTLAND, OR #21 8/17/10 -
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Quote from: Lucky7 on August 19, 2010, 04:18:32 PM
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L7, Could you please help me understand this post? Sorry to be dense. The link doesn't work and I can't tell the parts you wrote from what you are 'quoting'??
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, PORTLAND, OR #21 8/17/10 -
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Quote from: Blonde on August 19, 2010, 11:40:55 AM
Quote from: seahorse on August 19, 2010, 11:36:38 AM
Quote from: Blonde on August 19, 2010, 11:24:51 AM
Blink On Crime - Kristian Horman »
The Landscaper, in his white truck,
on her property, demanding his ... the role of an associate of the landscaper turned alleged assassin, was present. It was also confirmed a bulk of the incident was overheard on the police scanner. ... June 26, Multnomah County Detectives advised Kaine Horman that his wife had ...
blinkoncrime.com/category/kyron-horman/kristian-horman/ - Cached
Thank-you, Blonde.
Interesting, curious, the same model as Kaine's? Where is RS now? He was in INS custody. Thank-you for your updates & Pic's.
At this link it says he's Released
http://www.mcso.us/PAID/BookingDetail.aspx?ID=j2fROvstUkZ9eSRaCJS85w==
Icould be wrong, but I think he is now in federal custody.
Thank-you, Gypsy! I will sniff around the net.
He was in federal custody, and may still be, but today I learned he was moved.
Anselmo Sanchez? Rudy a nickname?
Potective custody, State protective witness program?
Blink do you know where Sanchez was moved to?
If he is in Federal custody he's most likely at Sheridan where the Federal prison is. I knew a Mexican guy picked up on a drug charge and after going to court in Portland he was sent to Sheridan for about a month and then driven with several other prisoners down to a Fed facility in Az, maybe New Mexico to serve his time before he was then sent back to Mexico. It was about 10 yrs ago.
Thank you for your response Scandi.
He was in Sheridan for the past few weeks.
I think Blink is saying he was moved from there today. I am wondering if anyone knows the next stop after Sheridan when you are on a USM hold? Sounds like you feel he may be in a federal prison in Arizonia or New Mexico..interesting.
Interesting. All I know is what they did back then. He was driven in a van with other prisoners of the same ILK and I got a call from him one night and he was in some town in Nevada on his way down to that Fed prison right north of the border. Actually it was an officer in the van who called me and put him on the phone about me making an arrangement to send him money down at that facility. OMG, thank goodness that part of my life is over. I was such a sucker for this cutie, even sent him my good leather jacket as he didn't have a coat.
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, PORTLAND, OR #21 8/17/10 -
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Quote from: Tolerance on August 19, 2010, 04:25:08 PM
Quote from: Lucky7 on August 19, 2010, 04:18:32 PM
((edit - posted in error))
L7, Could you please help me understand this post? Sorry to be dense. The link doesn't work and I can't tell the parts you wrote from what you are 'quoting'??
TIA
let me try the link to the map again
http://home.comcast.net/~andytom/Highways/htmlScripts/OR/I205-ORWA.xml
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Quote from: nicubird on August 19, 2010, 04:25:49 PM
Quote from: Lucky7 on August 19, 2010, 04:18:32 PM
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Lucky7, I am confused. Are you saying that Heather is involved and she told DeDe where to go? She explained that tweet in her thread. It's the location of a vegetable stand. Are you saying that she is sending a coded message? I'm not on board with that, but I'm interested in your thought process.
there is some extensive research I cannot post here that someone posted at TC. I would rather not explain it here re heather.
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I just want to make it clear I have opinions from info I am not saying anyones involved or names.
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, PORTLAND, OR #21 8/17/10 -
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Hey Lucky7, I lost my place from last night where we were talking about Newberry Rd and wondered if you have learned anything new. Like maybe it was named after someone and who that would be? Or any other little nuggets you might have come across on that road? lol
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Hey Lucky7, I lost my place from last night where we were talking about Newberry Rd and wondered if you have learned anything new. Like maybe it was named after someone and who that would be? Or any other little nuggets you might have come across on that road? lol
not yet. but I will post if if I find anything.
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Quote from: Scandi on August 19, 2010, 04:18:41 PM
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2010, 04:08:49 PM
Scandi, is this guy the one that Blink had the mugshot of, Rudy's relative, that was working with Rudy? Do you know how many landscapers work for Rudy?
Hi Norose, I am a bit confused on the LS issue as neither of those names matched. Didn't we read something about the ecological landscaping project at Skyline Elem. that gave a name of the LS working on the project. It was said at the time he was the guy Terri employed for the MFH and she met him at the school.
Another thing about Mexicans if they are here illegally, is they often use a fake name so LE can't trace who they really are if they are stopped for something. Portland has quite an underground system which helps these men, including the ability to get fake ID for a price.
Thank-you, I thought that the landscaper did do work at the school, and Terri met him there. This is very confusing.
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Quote from: Lucky7 on August 19, 2010, 04:36:26 PM
Quote from: Scandi on August 19, 2010, 04:33:32 PM
Hey Lucky7, I lost my place from last night where we were talking about Newberry Rd and wondered if you have learned anything new. Like maybe it was named after someone and who that would be? Or any other little nuggets you might have come across on that road? lol
not yet. but I will post if if I find anything.
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, PORTLAND, OR #21 8/17/10 -
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Quote from: Lucky7 on August 19, 2010, 04:18:32 PM
((edit - posted in error))
I would like to note here that I am not blaming anyone... I am just saying I was trying to figure out what this could have meant.. and this is something that is interesting to me.
I am not blaming heather at all.. but if DeDe metioned wilsonville (I meant to add DeDes tweet then maybe DeDe took Kyron to WA... Heather if you read this I am not blaming you at all)
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, PORTLAND, OR #21 8/17/10 -
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I would like to retract Heathers tweet..
this is the one I meant to post..
DEDE Tweets..
Heads up PDX peeps: the Red Robin in Wilsonville has no A/C
sorry about posting it that way.. I Was not suggesting Heather has anything to to with this.. so I appologize heather for wording it that way.
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Quote from: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2010, 04:37:37 PM
Quote from: Scandi on August 19, 2010, 04:18:41 PM
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2010, 04:08:49 PM
Scandi, is this guy the one that Blink had the mugshot of, Rudy's relative, that was working with Rudy? Do you know how many landscapers work for Rudy?
Hi Norose, I am a bit confused on the LS issue as neither of those names matched. Didn't we read something about the ecological landscaping project at Skyline Elem. that gave a name of the LS working on the project. It was said at the time he was the guy Terri employed for the MFH and she met him at the school.
Another thing about Mexicans if they are here illegally, is they often use a fake name so LE can't trace who they really are if they are stopped for something. Portland has quite an underground system which helps these men, including the ability to get fake ID for a price.
Thank-you, I thought that the landscaper did do work at the school, and Terri met him there. This is very confusing.
I'm wondering how we first got the name Rudy Sanchez? I can't remember the link where we learned about the school landscape project and her meeting him there. Maybe that is where his name came out. If it stated the name of the LS firm and these 2 guys worked for him {since neither of their names were Rudy} - well I am confused about that and need to figure it out. xox
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Lucky without saying anything you feel you shouldn't, what makes you think DeDe took Kyron to Washington the night of the 4th, and where in the world would she take him?
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Quote from: Lucky7 on August 19, 2010, 04:33:26 PM
I just want to make it clear I have opinions from info I am not saying anyones involved or names.
IMO a reasonable person will read your original post and infer that you are saying that Heather is involved in hiding Kyron. I don't believe this a fair assumption with the information that most of us have available to us. I have seen the research at TC, and I still don't understand the leap in logic that is required to get from the location of a farmstand to the location of a missing boy. If you are certain of your findings you should call the tipline. I'm not trying to bust your chops, but you made a loaded statement and then you told us you couldn't explain.
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, PORTLAND, OR #21 8/17/10 -
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Quote from: Lucky7 on August 19, 2010, 04:38:30 PM
Quote from: Lucky7 on August 19, 2010, 04:18:32 PM
((edit - posted in error))
I would like to note here that I am not blaming anyone... I am just saying I was trying to figure out what this could have meant.. and this is something that is interesting to me.
I am not blaming heather at all.. but if DeDe metioned wilsonville (I meant to add DeDes tweet then maybe DeDe took Kyron to WA... Heather if you read this I am not blaming you at all)
I would think that if this was planned and DeDe had Kyron with her,
the plan would have included a planned route and you wouldn't be calling someone for directions...I am confused
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Quote from: seahorse on August 19, 2010, 03:58:50 PM
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2010, 03:45:16 PM
Quote from: seahorse on August 19, 2010, 03:43:56 PM
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2010, 03:09:42 PM
It would be interesting to find out where Sanchez has been moved to
NoRose,
Maybe, Mexico! Ole
Could be
NoRose,
I am puzzled, is there more than one Landscaper? Was he IT? The GJ is still in the process of interviewing locals.
LE must be scouring Portland.
Thought you might be interested in this.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/07/05/oregon.missing.boy/index.html
Investigators informed Kaine Horman of the murder-for-hire plot and said his wife may have tried to hire others as well, KGW reported, citing sources familiar with the conversation.
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Quote from: nicubird on August 19, 2010, 04:43:56 PM
Quote from: Lucky7 on August 19, 2010, 04:33:26 PM
I just want to make it clear I have opinions from info I am not saying anyones involved or names.
IMO a reasonable person will read your original post and infer that you are saying that Heather is involved in hiding Kyron. I don't believe this a fair assumption with the information that most of us have available to us. I have seen the research at TC, and I still don't understand the leap in logic that is required to get from the location of a farmstand to the location of a missing boy. If you are certain of your findings you should call the tipline. I'm not trying to bust your chops, but you made a loaded statement and then you told us you couldn't explain.
Klaas, please delete my post. Lucky7 has clarified the information for me
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===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
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===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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