Caylee Marie Anthony #150 10/18/09 - 11/4/09

[KarmaRoundUp]

Was/is anyone able to get a clearer shot of exhibit #22-#23 from cindy's depo #2?
This exhibit is where baez went all bulldog on cindy and told her to zip it.I can read the left side but not the right side.
 

[crazybabyborg]

I can read "pillow saliva" and under it, "cherry gum"

[crazybabyborg]

For whatever it's worth, here are the words I can make out on the left:

[Mtnmom]

For whatever it's worth, here are the words I can make out on the left:

above envelope looks like sterile swab

[Mtnmom]

sterile swab was on there sorry, it helps to scroll the picture over!

[Gizzie]

Just wanted to send a shout out to Desi and ANJM! You are missed! 

[BooMonkey]

Morning Monkeys!! No, I didn't forget to set my clock back one hour, it's just  my internal clock wouldn't cooperate this morning. So hopefully I can go back to bed in a little while.

Happy November 1st!!!

[BooMonkey]

When someone gets here, can you give me the link to Cindy's depo where Baez is having a tantrum??

[BooMonkey]

Everyone's sleeping in..... Here's an interesting link about Casey Anthony handwriting analysis

http://www.viewzone.com/handwriting.html     

[strayze]

Well, maybe Kronk getting fired isn't as bad as we are led to believe. Maybe he just had a hard time adjusting to all the dramatics associated with finding Caylee and instant celebrity status. He could have just been doing a crap job, messing up and they brought him before the board for review. I have no idea why he wouldn't show up when his job is on the line, but maybe he was disgruntled about his job and the way he was being treated. JMO 

JMO...having been reared in a family with an alcoholic, the first time I saw him my first thought was he was a drunk. Sorry...JMO. But I'd be willing to bet on it. So I think he may have been caught drinking on the job.

Being that my entire paternal line are hopeless alcoholics, save for the spouses, I know well what alcoholics look like, and they look like any one of us.  Unless the person develops a constellation of tell-tale signs like jaundice, bloated lower abdomen, numb extremities, seizures, swollen or small liver, problems with recent memory, high blood pressure, etc., it's really difficult to proclaim alcoholism.  People who drink too much are not necessarily addicted to alcohol, but could be well on their way.

According to his employer, Kronk was dismissed for not lifting heavy boxes when according to K's physician, Kronk's work-related injury prevented him from safely lifting heavy items.  I know from experience, how very difficult employers can be in these circumstances, including Federal and State government entities.  Employers are loathe to providing appropriate job duties to an injured workers, possibly because of the effect that Federally mandated "reasonable accommodation" given causes great resentment in co-workers - - and the resultant lower overall productivity.  Kronk at his salary was at the bottom of the heap.  Things can get really nasty in those circumstances, and many employers, in cluding governmental agencies, for they know that the handicap laws are not enforced, and are still being defined in the courts as to the meaning of the handicap laws.  This process takes many decades, so never assume one is protected by a law, until that law has aged out and stood the test of multiple courts.

[seemeatthebeach]

We can finally put the "George is Caylee's bio daddy" false rumor to rest.......Unless you agree with Cindy as this is junk science...LOL

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=327


About Caylee’s Parentage
October 31st, 2009

A reader, Brenda, requested that I post concerning some spurious rumor that George might be Caylee’s father. I think this is a worthy subject to discuss, because the false rumor detracts from matters that are far more important to the case. The FBI DNA testing ruled Lee out, but apparently the “George is the father” rumor stuck well, because the FBI didn’t explicitly state he wasn’t. To give credit, Brenda did a great deal of work on the backside before contacting me, so I’ll quote what she shared here:

    …I went and printed out a copy of the DNA Parentage Test Report of Casey, Caylee and Jesse (page 8850 of the evidence). I then went and printed out the Profiler Plus ID (page 8395) which has George’s DNA profile on it listed as K7-1. I also printed out the COfiler (page 8445)which also has George’s DNA profile on it listed as K7-1. I then went back to the DNA Parentage Test Report and substituted George’s DNA profile where Jesse’s is at the appropriate Locus locations from both the Profiler Plus ID and COfiler DNA profiles. Basically every Locus location is covered from the FBI DNA profiles except for 2 on the DNA Parentage Test Report, however there is one extra listed for Casey, Caylee and George on the FBI DNA profiles that isn’t listed on the DNA Parentage Test Report (D7S820). Anyway all I had to do was plug in George’s DNA profile into the DNA Parentage Test Report at the right Locus locations and right away you can tell that it’s not possible for him to be Caylee’s bio dad. Here’s a list that proves George can’t be the father: Locus D8S1179 bio dad has to be 12 George is 14. D21S11 bio dad has to be 28 George is 30. D7S820 bio dad has to be an 11 George is a 12. D3S1358 bio dad has to be a 14 George is 15,19. THO1 bio dad has to be a 7 George is 6,8. D16S539 bio dad has to be a 13 George is a 12. VWA bio dad has to be a 17 George is 18,19. TPOX bio dad has to be an 8 George is 9,11. D18S51 bio dad has to be a 16 George is 14,17. FGA bio dad has to be a 24 George is 22,25. The last one that is only on the FBI reports and not on the DNA Parentage Test Report is Locus D7S820 showing that bio dad has to be an 11 and George is a 12. I’m hoping that you could [put up a chart and] a story on your blog so people like me that can’t dismiss that notion without seeing proof can finally put the issue to rest too.

I’m not going to chart ALL of the alleles from the parentage test as Brenda worked through, because it only takes a small set to establish that Lee, George or Jesse aren’t capable of being the father of Caylee. So here is what we get when we put Caylee, Casey, Cindy, George, Lee and Jesse all on one COfiler table (results taken from parentage test and tables from the 10/09/09 discovery (page 56) and the 09/29/09 discovery (page 86).)

Okay, I have included the DNA benchmark Q18-1 from the hairbrush for Caylee as well as her DNA profile information from the paternity test in the first two lines of this table.  Note that on the paternity test a second allele was picked up at D16S539 which didn’t come through in the DNA testing of the hairbrush.  So Caylee is not homozygous at this gene locus (i.e. she doesn’t have two 9 alleles), she is actually heterozygous at this location (9,13).  Now the way we look at what the father needs to return on these gene loci is to take Caylee’s alleles, look at what alleles Casey had to offer, take off the alleles from Casey, and we are left with the alleles the father had to contribute.  I have done this in the last line of the chart labeled “REQUIRED ALLELE”.  Note that none of the three men have the 14, 13 or 7 for D3S1358, D16S539 or THO1, respectively.  In addition, George does not have the 8 for TPOX nor the 11 for D7S820.

Hopefully we can put these “incest” issues concerning Caylee’s parentage behind us and focus on real issues.  A very special thanks to “Brenda Banana” for her hard work and for sharing!

[KarmaRoundUp]

For whatever it's worth, here are the words I can make out on the left:

Thank you CBB!

[KarmaRoundUp]

We can finally put the "George is Caylee's bio daddy" false rumor to rest.......Unless you agree with Cindy as this is junk science...LOL

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=327


About Caylee’s Parentage
October 31st, 2009

A reader, Brenda, requested that I post concerning some spurious rumor that George might be Caylee’s father. I think this is a worthy subject to discuss, because the false rumor detracts from matters that are far more important to the case. The FBI DNA testing ruled Lee out, but apparently the “George is the father” rumor stuck well, because the FBI didn’t explicitly state he wasn’t. To give credit, Brenda did a great deal of work on the backside before contacting me, so I’ll quote what she shared here:

    …I went and printed out a copy of the DNA Parentage Test Report of Casey, Caylee and Jesse (page 8850 of the evidence). I then went and printed out the Profiler Plus ID (page 8395) which has George’s DNA profile on it listed as K7-1. I also printed out the COfiler (page 8445)which also has George’s DNA profile on it listed as K7-1. I then went back to the DNA Parentage Test Report and substituted George’s DNA profile where Jesse’s is at the appropriate Locus locations from both the Profiler Plus ID and COfiler DNA profiles. Basically every Locus location is covered from the FBI DNA profiles except for 2 on the DNA Parentage Test Report, however there is one extra listed for Casey, Caylee and George on the FBI DNA profiles that isn’t listed on the DNA Parentage Test Report (D7S820). Anyway all I had to do was plug in George’s DNA profile into the DNA Parentage Test Report at the right Locus locations and right away you can tell that it’s not possible for him to be Caylee’s bio dad. Here’s a list that proves George can’t be the father: Locus D8S1179 bio dad has to be 12 George is 14. D21S11 bio dad has to be 28 George is 30. D7S820 bio dad has to be an 11 George is a 12. D3S1358 bio dad has to be a 14 George is 15,19. THO1 bio dad has to be a 7 George is 6,8. D16S539 bio dad has to be a 13 George is a 12. VWA bio dad has to be a 17 George is 18,19. TPOX bio dad has to be an 8 George is 9,11. D18S51 bio dad has to be a 16 George is 14,17. FGA bio dad has to be a 24 George is 22,25. The last one that is only on the FBI reports and not on the DNA Parentage Test Report is Locus D7S820 showing that bio dad has to be an 11 and George is a 12. I’m hoping that you could [put up a chart and] a story on your blog so people like me that can’t dismiss that notion without seeing proof can finally put the issue to rest too.

I’m not going to chart ALL of the alleles from the parentage test as Brenda worked through, because it only takes a small set to establish that Lee, George or Jesse aren’t capable of being the father of Caylee. So here is what we get when we put Caylee, Casey, Cindy, George, Lee and Jesse all on one COfiler table (results taken from parentage test and tables from the 10/09/09 discovery (page 56) and the 09/29/09 discovery (page 86).)

Okay, I have included the DNA benchmark Q18-1 from the hairbrush for Caylee as well as her DNA profile information from the paternity test in the first two lines of this table.  Note that on the paternity test a second allele was picked up at D16S539 which didn’t come through in the DNA testing of the hairbrush.  So Caylee is not homozygous at this gene locus (i.e. she doesn’t have two 9 alleles), she is actually heterozygous at this location (9,13).  Now the way we look at what the father needs to return on these gene loci is to take Caylee’s alleles, look at what alleles Casey had to offer, take off the alleles from Casey, and we are left with the alleles the father had to contribute.  I have done this in the last line of the chart labeled “REQUIRED ALLELE”.  Note that none of the three men have the 14, 13 or 7 for D3S1358, D16S539 or THO1, respectively.  In addition, George does not have the 8 for TPOX nor the 11 for D7S820.

Hopefully we can put these “incest” issues concerning Caylee’s parentage behind us and focus on real issues.  A very special thanks to “Brenda Banana” for her hard work and for sharing!

I don't remember seeing all of the DNA markers from cindy,george,lee,Jesse or casey in the evidence released but I may have missed that.I do know that with the DNA reported as coming from lee was released,that it wasn't a complete DNA profile for him so lee couldn't be 100% eliminated as being Caylee's Daddy.
 

[mgoblue]

When someone gets here, can you give me the link to Cindy's depo where Baez is having a tantrum??

I think this might be what you're looking for:

TRANSCRIPTS:
George |
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310228/detail.html

 Lee |
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310241/detail.html

Cindy Part 1 |
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310276/detail.html

Cindy Part 2

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310288/detail.html

[KarmaRoundUp]

When someone gets here, can you give me the link to Cindy's depo where Baez is having a tantrum??

I think this might be what you're looking for:

TRANSCRIPTS:
George |
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310228/detail.html

 Lee |
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310241/detail.html

Cindy Part 1 |
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310276/detail.html

Cindy Part 2

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310288/detail.html

Thanks Mgoblue
I think baez's fit starts around page # 500 in cindys part #2 depo.

[Fanny Mae]

PRECIOUS CAYLEE, FOREVER YOUNG.

[no rose colored glasses]

 Thank-you Seeme for posting that, I have no idea what I just read     I don't understand all that stuff so I will just believe that George is not Caylee's father.

[loca]

Thank-you Seeme for posting that, I have no idea what I just read     I don't understand all that stuff so I will just believe that George is not Caylee's father.

does anyone know anything  about this?
New GLOBE article - critical of Anthonys - “BOOZE CRUISE” Nov. 9, 2009 by Bob Burns.

calls them “tattooed grandparents” and says they “party” while “Monster Mom festers behind bars”!

excerpts:
“BOOZE CRUISE”
“….Casey Anthony’s parents ……boozing, gambling and showing off their tattoos on a Caribbean cruise while their daughter languishes in jail.”
“…. grandparents reaped the fat payout for cooperating with the 48 Hours Mystery show,” …..
“a shipmate tells GLOBE” …..
“I saw them at night in the casino bar where both George and Cindy were enjoying cocktails and didn’t seem to have a care in the world, says the passenger.”
“Casey’s parents - who seem to share their black-hearted daughter’s party-hearty appetite - were also proudly displaying colorful tattoos.” “Cindy’s bears the name Caylee Marie entwined with a butterfly in tribute to their little granddaughter.” “George - who was also seen for the first time wearing a pair of diamond stud earrings - has the inscription “My Sunshine” on his chest. The tattoo features a girl with sunbeams streaming down on her.”

includes 2 new cruise photos from a fellow passenger.

[klaasend]

Don't miss the Dana Pretzer show tonight at 9pm ET.  He has a great lineup tonight, IMO:

www.scaredmonkeysradio.com

I'll post a link to the show just prior to 9pm ET:

[klaasend]

Direct link to the Dana Pretzer show:

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/radio.m3u