Zahra Clare Baker #9 11/27/10 - 1/5/11

[sassifrass]

Northern Rose: Thank you so much for all of the info. You sure are a blessing. 

[Brandi]

Correction. The above is from #5.

[Northern Rose]

Search Warrants: Stepmother Says Zahra Died Sept. 24  (video)

http://www.wsoctv.com/video/26369172/index.html

[bananas]

AY ( Railbugfreak ) has been quite on all fronts recently. I still try to stalk him in my spare time. I don't know who the other one is that was involved in imvu. I suspicion that it was her daughter, AF. I don't think that imvu allows child porn or porn, but a person could make contact with other like minded persons and do the contact via emails and payment for " products " via PayPal. This is what I think was going on with EB. Not sure if any of the others were involved in this. Maybe there is something in the unsealed search warrant.   

I wondered if the other one was AY's new wife.  I dunno just think it is all creepy.

[Gizzie]

Northern, Could you refresh my memory as to who "Sammy Young" is?   

Either Aaron Young's brother or cousin.  I have to check to be sure

Thanks! I wasn't thinking properly and thought I'd never heard the name before, but I got it!

[Northern Rose]

Zahra Baker died two weeks before reported missing, warrant states (video)

http://www.wbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13774355

[sassifrass]

Zahra Baker died two weeks before reported missing, warrant states (video)

http://www.wbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13774355

Good Lord!   

[sassifrass]

I think we need a sister prayer, please.

[Gizzie]

Northern, Could you refresh my memory as to who "Sammy Young" is?   

Either Aaron Young's brother or cousin.  I have to check to be sure

Lewis "James" Young is Aaron's brother

Timmy "Sammy" young is the cousin

I think


Isn't Sammy the one who was said to have had raped Zahra? I think I'm getting myself confused a bit.   

[Gizzie]

Oopsie 

[Northern Rose]

Warrant: Stepmother claims Zahra Baker died in Sept.  (video)


http://www.wcnc.com/news/zahra-baker/Warrants-in-Zahra-Baker-case-reveal-sordid-details-112890749.html

[Fanny Mae]

Basically most of the information so far have been things we already knew. The "chain saw" enacting and the number of telephones was new. The warrants for the phones and medical records was not unexpected. Most of the search warrants for the house and the items took were mostly already known too. I wonder why the fight to keep them sealed, unless there is more on the others that have been released.

[Brandi]

Search warrants provide grisly details in Zahra Baker's death
By the CNN Wire Staff
January 4, 2011 8:39 p.m. EST

(CNN) -- The stepmother of 10-year-old Zahra Baker told police the girl was killed two weeks before she was reported missing, according to search warrants released Tuesday.

Stepmother Elisa Baker also told police in Hickory, North Carolina, that the disabled girl's body was disposed of the next day, September 25, in various locations, according to the documents.

She told police on November 19 that the girl's father, Adam Baker, dismembered the girl, and the couple disposed of the remains.

While Elisa Baker has been charged with obstruction of justice -- for writing a fake ransom note and leaving it at the family's Hickory home -- no one has been charged directly in the girl's death. Elisa Baker also is accused of writing worthless checks.

Police have said she had been cooperating with investigators.

One of the search warrants details an online conversation a web user said she had with Adam and/or Elisa Baker "regarding their involvement with chainsaw massacre role-playing."

According to the warrant, "the date of September 22 was given regarding their virtual family 'doing a murder with chainsaws.'" Elisa Baker's former husband also was involved in role-playing, according to the conversation.

Catawba Superior Court Judge Robert C. Ervin released the 30 search warrants that provide more insight into the grisly killing of the freckled-face girl, who lost part of her left leg at age 5 to cancer. Eleven search warrants were released in December.

Police found some of Zahra Baker's remains on November 11, just over a month after she was reported her missing.

In October, Adam Baker, who denied he was involved in Zahra's disappearance, tearfully called for the return of his daughter.

Investigators reviewed Adam Baker's cell phone records and the phone's GPS locator from September 25, the warrants say. According to those records, Adam Baker's phone was not in the areas where Zahra's remains were found on the day that Elisa Baker said he disposed of them, the warrants say.

Elisa Baker's cell phone records indicate that her phone was in those areas on that day, the warrants say.

According to the warrants, Elisa Baker told Adam Baker that a man she said was her brother actually was her husband. She married Adam Baker before the divorce, police said.

CNN left messages Tuesday evening with the attorneys for Elisa and Adam Baker.

In one of the search warrants released in December, a tipster told police that Zahra had been at a North Carolina home with two men and one of the men said "he had done something very bad and needed to leave town."

One of the men was associated with Zahra's stepmother but was not Zahra's father, the tipster said.

The tipster also told police that Zahra had been raped by both men and that she had blood on her private area and legs, the search warrant said. The tipster told police that he got the information about the alleged rape from a friend who was told about it from his sister.

Police went to the home to see if they could confirm the fourth-hand information and found a mattress at the side of the house that "had a large dark stain in the middle," the search warrant said.

The tipster said the men did not admit to killing the girl but did say that they "might have hit her in the head," the search warrant said.

Adam Baker was arrested in late October in nearby Catawba County on eight charges: five counts of writing bad checks and three counts of failing to appear in court. Authorities said the charges were unrelated to Zahra's disappearance, and he was later released on bail.

The disappearance of Zahra made international news. The girl, whose biological parents were both from Australia, lost part of her left leg at age 5 and lost hearing in both ears while being treated for cancer.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/04/north.carolina.girl/index.html?section=cnn_latest

[Fanny Mae]

Warrant: Stepmother claims Zahra Baker died in Sept.  (video)


http://www.wcnc.com/news/zahra-baker/Warrants-in-Zahra-Baker-case-reveal-sordid-details-112890749.html

Do you think the day the furniture lady said she saw Zahra in the store was the day Elisa bought the bed? I didn't really understand what she meant about Elisa and Zahra were texting each other about it.

[Northern Rose]

Northern, Could you refresh my memory as to who "Sammy Young" is?   

Either Aaron Young's brother or cousin.  I have to check to be sure

Lewis "James" Young is Aaron's brother

Timmy "Sammy" young is the cousin

I think


Isn't Sammy the one who was said to have had raped Zahra? I think I'm getting myself confused a bit.   

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The two men accused of raping Zahra Baker before she died say they didn't assault the 10-year-old Hickory girl, and that they passed a polygraph test when questioned by police.

"I've never done anything inappropriate with Zahra," said James Young, a former in-law of Elisa Baker, Zahra's stepmother. "It's aggravating being accused of something like this."

Young, 37, said police cleared him of any wrongdoing and that he hasn't met with investigators since October.

Young's brother was once married to Elisa Baker. And Young had lived across the street from Elisa, Zahra and her father, Adam Baker, in Caldwell County, before the Bakers moved to Hickory. Young said he often saw the Bakers in the mobile home park, and spent time with them at Christmas and birthday parties.

He described Zahra as an "outstanding, outgoing kid," and has photos of the girl on his refrigerator.

His cousin, Timothy "Sammy" Young, declined to discuss the rape allegation, but said he also passed a polygraph test on the Zahra investigation.

"The allegations that have been said are untrue and that is all I have to say thanks," he said in a text..

The allegation that Zahra was physically assaulted and raped before she died emerged in search warrant documents unsealed last week.

An unnamed source reported to police that the Youngs may have raped and physically assaulted Zahra., the documents said. The source said Zahra, at a time unspecified in the document, had been at a beige block house in Burke County with the two men.

The source - who got his information from talking to someone else - reported that Elisa Baker came to the house and saw Zahra with blood on her lower body, and that the men had raped her, according to the documents.

The source said he asked the person he was talking to if the men at the house had killed Zahra, and he was told "they might have hit her in the head," one document says.

Hickory Police declined to say whether the Youngs are still under investigation.

No one has been charged in connection with Zahra's death. Both Elisa Baker and Adam Baker have denied any wrongdoing.

It's unclear how the girl died, but police have reported that some of her remains were discovered in at least two rural areas five miles apart.

Elisa Baker is in jail after police say she admitted to writing a phony ransom note to thwart their investigation into Zahra's disappearance.

James Young still lives in the small beige block house with his father. On Tuesday, he welcomed an ******* reporter into his kitchen to talk about the investigation. On his refrigerator was a photo of Zahra, smiling and hugging Young. A second photo, created as a memorial after the girl went missing, was titled "Sweet Zahra."

As he fixed a cup of instant coffee in a microwave, Young said police first visited him about a week after Zahra was reported missing on Oct. 9. He said Zahra had never even been to the house, and the last time he saw her was months ago in the spring or summer when they lived in the same mobile home park.

Young said he submitted to a cheek swab so police could get a DNA sample. He said he took a polygraph test. He said he allowed police to search his house. They didn't remove anything, he said. He hasn't heard from them again in more than a month.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/12/08/1895088/cousins-say-they-didnt-assault.html

[Gizzie]

Thank you Northern! Now I remember exactly who he is! 

[Northern Rose]

Warrant: Stepmother claims Zahra Baker died in Sept.  (video)


http://www.wcnc.com/news/zahra-baker/Warrants-in-Zahra-Baker-case-reveal-sordid-details-112890749.html

Do you think the day the furniture lady said she saw Zahra in the store was the day Elisa bought the bed? I didn't really understand what she meant about Elisa and Zahra were texting each other about it.

I don't know either.  This is all I have come across about text messages

[Fanny Mae]

Warrant: Stepmother claims Zahra Baker died in Sept.  (video)


http://www.wcnc.com/news/zahra-baker/Warrants-in-Zahra-Baker-case-reveal-sordid-details-112890749.html

Do you think the day the furniture lady said she saw Zahra in the store was the day Elisa bought the bed? I didn't really understand what she meant about Elisa and Zahra were texting each other about it.

I don't know either.  This is all I have come across about text messages

I'll go back and see if I can find it. It was an statement about an interview with a lady in a furniture store when Eliza bought the bed.

[Brandi]

Warrant: Stepmother claims Zahra Baker died in Sept.  (video)


http://www.wcnc.com/news/zahra-baker/Warrants-in-Zahra-Baker-case-reveal-sordid-details-112890749.html

Do you think the day the furniture lady said she saw Zahra in the store was the day Elisa bought the bed? I didn't really understand what she meant about Elisa and Zahra were texting each other about it.

The news article and video here: http://charlotte.news14.com/content/top_stories/631566/police-narrow-down-last-day-zahra-baker-seen do not mention them buying anything. Said they were in the store ~30 minutes.

I don't know anything about Zahra and Elisa texting ?

[Sister]

I think we need a sister prayer, please.

Heavenly Father, we thank you that you have chosen us as your children.  We thank you for loving us so we can come into your presence and lay our burdens down.  We are heavy laden Father, we cringe and cry out in pain for what has happened to Zahra.  Lord, you know all about it . . . more than we know or will ever know.  We just wrestle so deeply with the whys and then the total lack of responsibility from people who were suppose to love this precious child.  Forgive our questions, yet Lord you see within our spirits and know we have them.  We doubt not you, we doubt people who have been entrusted with the gifts you have blessed them with.  Why oh why must they disregard these gifts like trash?  Enlighten us we pray . . . or Father is the answer more than we could bear?  Are you saving us from the pain of knowledge we are not equipped to handle?  We trust you, we love you, and we thank you for releasing Zahra of these earthy monsters that surrounded her.  We thank you for embracing her eternally and making her whole.  Continue to be a presence with those who truly love her, including the monkeys here . . . in Jesus' name we pray.  Amen and Amen.