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Tylergal
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #713 1/16
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Quote from: Anna on January 17, 2008, 02:41:14 PM
Quote from: robots on January 17, 2008, 02:14:30 PM
Charlie from refugees did the right thing
thank you Charlie
from the bottom of my metal heart
Even after all the mean things he has said about me and all the monkeys, I will have to give CharlieRat credit for doing the right thing in this regard.
Thank you, CharlieRat.
Of all the lies told in all this mess, this has to be one of the most vile. This needs to be stopped and stopped now. What I believe we have is an example of people applying their own low subhuman standards to others. It's just inexcusable for any reason.
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Charlie knows the consequences of litigation when forged documents are presented as fact.
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Quote from: Tylergal on January 17, 2008, 06:03:51 PM
Quote from: Anna on January 17, 2008, 02:41:14 PM
Quote from: robots on January 17, 2008, 02:14:30 PM
Charlie from refugees did the right thing
thank you Charlie
from the bottom of my metal heart
Even after all the mean things he has said about me and all the monkeys, I will have to give CharlieRat credit for doing the right thing in this regard.
Thank you, CharlieRat.
Of all the lies told in all this mess, this has to be one of the most vile. This needs to be stopped and stopped now. What I believe we have is an example of people applying their own low subhuman standards to others. It's just inexcusable for any reason.
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Charlie knows the consequences of litigation when forged documents are presented as fact.
I think this time he did it just because it was the right thing to do though.
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Heli, that was not a broad based promise, it was specific to those two, claiming Natalee was molested, specifically by Jug. And I meant it. Sincerely.
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Quote from: Helen Back on January 17, 2008, 06:01:20 PM
Frozenbrokenhair!
Anna, way to tell it over at ZoltanZion!
It seems TJ Ward smacked down Michael Archer on Star Jone's show. Sorry I missed it.
You guys remember Michael Archer, the famous forensic scientist we can't find any info or CV for that Joe Tacopina took to Aruba? You know, the one whose bio was on Wikipedia until even that disappeared some time ago?
Not only does he have no credentials that we can find, he has sent a "cease and desist" letter to TJ Ward.......from himself!
OMG.....too funny!
Hi Helen Back,
Maybe he stayed at a Holiday Inn Express!
Is this for real? I mean is it possible to be as stupid as these things happening?
Anna's description of the hair was too funny.
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Glenda wrote: "aruba's job was not to babysit Beth's daughter. Beth sent her daughter to swim with the sharks, she is responsible for what ever happened to Natalee." = there is no homicide in aruba, only SUICIDE. Don't go to aruba if you value your life.
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NM
Thanks....but I wasn't the one looking for the links.
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Crioyo on November 27th, 2006 8:44 pm
Saw the whole show sunday…Pretty good..even if it was just a summary of what we already knew. It’s the first decent attempt to put it all on mainstream tv. The last time opsporing verzocht did it, they made it look as if joran & co were just witnesses rather than suspects. This time around it was good.
I didn’t know though that Joran had paid someone 200euro’s to photoshop pics of him and natalee to pretend as if they already knew eachother.
They showed the email and the account hakers_rule@
and when peter asked paulus on the phone, paulus also said the ”we have more information but will bring it out when the time is right, that is when she is found or in such a case” speech. same thing joran said on 60 minutes was it?
etc etc…pretty good show and there seems to be a part 2 this week according to me…
will keep an eye out.
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2006/11/26/peter-de-vries-investigates-the-natalee-holloway-disappearance-in-aruba-lies-and-conflicts-of-interest/
IIRC....We have a picture of the email...somewhere....
Klaas???
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Julia Renfro and Charlierat's mindsets are one this issue.
I believe that Julia and Charlierat's condemnation of Castillo and Young's actions are motivated by the realization that their past insinuations that undermine the words, actions and intentions of Natalee's family is one thing but ... the outright accusations of these two loonies in the audio recording are another ... especially when the legally implications in regards to lawsuits are taken into consideration.
Tamikosmom is not giving Julia Renfro and Charlierat any slack. They have not diverted from their long established agenda to distance Joran and Paulus by sifting the focus of blame on the victim and her family.
Monkeys ... I have accumulated Julia and Charlierat's dispicable posts in regards to Natalee and Beth. I would feel that I am betraying the Natalee's family and Natalee's memories by giving them the benefit of the doubt without reading in a submitted post that there was "genuine" repetence for their dispicable words ... for their cruel insinuations.
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 17, 2008, 06:29:34 PM
Julia Renfro and Charlierat's mindsets are one this issue.
I believe that Julia and Charlierat's condemnation of Castillo and Young's actions are motivated by the realization that their past insinuations that undermine the words, actions and intentions of Natalee's family is one thing but ... the outright accusations of these two loonies in the audio recording are another ... especially when the legally implications in regards to lawsuits are taken into consideration.
Tamikosmom is not giving Julia Renfro and Charlierat any slack. They have not diverted from their long established agenda to distance Joran and Paulus by sifting the focus of blame on the victim and her family.
Monkeys ... I have accumulated Julia and Charlierat's dispicable posts in regards to Natalee and Beth. I would feel that I am betraying the Natalee's family and Natalee's memories by giving them the benefit of the doubt without reading in a submitted post that there was "genuine" repetence for their dispicable words ... for their cruel insinuations.
IMO
Janet
Janet....I totally agree with you.
I will give credit when credit is due. IMO none is due regarding those two.
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 17, 2008, 06:29:34 PM
Julia Renfro and Charlierat's mindsets are one this issue.
I believe that Julia and Charlierat's condemnation of Castillo and Young's actions are motivated by the realization that their past insinuations that undermine the words, actions and intentions of Natalee's family is one thing but ... the outright accusations of these two loonies in the audio recording are another ... especially when the legally implications in regards to lawsuits are taken into consideration.
Tamikosmom is not giving Julia Renfro and Charlierat any slack. They have not diverted from their long established agenda to distance Joran and Paulus by sifting the focus of blame on the victim and her family.
Monkeys ... I have accumulated Julia and Charlierat's dispicable posts in regards to Natalee and Beth. I would feel that I am betraying the Natalee's family and Natalee's memories by giving them the benefit of the doubt without reading in a submitted post that there was "genuine" repetence for their dispicable words ... for their cruel insinuations.
IMO
Janet
Charlie has not apologized for anything he did or any of his words, or for his position, and I know that. He has the right not to as far as I am concerned. He apologized for, or he worked to discredit, or however else anyone wants to phrase it, this one specific "act." And it was that one specific work on his part that I appreciated him doing. I know how I think he feels, I know how he has posted, and as I have said he is entitled to his opinions. I have posted just as harshly as him, or have tried, and it is my right to completely disagree with his post and to even be angered by them, just as his right is with us. But this one act was so clearly out of bounds, legally and ethically, and he had the balls to say so. I am not going soft on Charlie and he is already chewing my ass again, but even it hotly debated debates there are limits, and he is pointed that out in his own way. Don't make too much of this, as he hasn't, but if someone does a kind act and you notice it, then the person noticing it should give credit where it is due. I noticed it.
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From RU:
MF Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:06 pm
Dompig's reaction to the American couple's conference.
He said that he never met with them, but knew who they were. He thought of them like "Wild Cowboys". During that time he get so much information, that he got no indications to investigate their findings. The story about the sexual abuse, explain at least Jug's behavior. "He was very aggresive and threatened me and my agents."
The police had indications just like the first poster that Beth handed out and from girlfriends that the relation between the mother and daughter damaged (verstoord) was.
That the mother lied about her arrival time he is not aware of.
"We have investigated the timeline and we know based on telephonecalles, flightinformation and airtraffic, that these must fit the theory and thus Beth on the time arrives that she had said."
If the two are integer, Dompig does not dare to say, but he does know from his old colleagues at the FBI that Castillo and Young never had a serious case. "Anybody can call himself a private investigator in the USA and possibly searching for their 15 minutes of fame." Nevertheless they might have discovered some things according to Dompig. "You never know. Moreover, they say that crazy people and children do speak the truth."
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 17, 2008, 06:29:34 PM
Julia Renfro and Charlierat's mindsets are one this issue.
I believe that Julia and Charlierat's condemnation of Castillo and Young's actions are motivated by the realization that their past insinuations that undermine the words, actions and intentions of Natalee's family is one thing but ... the outright accusations of these two loonies in the audio recording are another ... especially when the legally implications in regards to lawsuits are taken into consideration.
Tamikosmom is not giving Julia Renfro and Charlierat any slack. They have not diverted from their long established agenda to distance Joran and Paulus by sifting the focus of blame on the victim and her family.
Monkeys ... I have accumulated Julia and Charlierat's dispicable posts in regards to Natalee and Beth.
I would feel that I am betraying the Natalee's family and Natalee's memories by giving them the benefit of the doubt without reading in a submitted post that there was "genuine" repetence for their dispicable words ... for their cruel insinuations.
IMO
Janet
Janet...I am 100 million percent with you on this.....and we know this is never going to happen...I was sent the rat's post on RU re: PI's post....I will not post it here...but it is his usual nasty self posting....
I still can't understand, and have given up trying, how those people can be so ugly and nasty about a mother trying to find out what happened to her daughter and seeing those responsible brought to justice....such a 'soul' sick group of people
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Quote from: ala_gunslinger on January 17, 2008, 04:06:54 PM
aruba should be getting nervous! Afterall, they are close to chavez, the Persistance and Crew are using oil exploration technology around the island. Who knows, they may also find oil. Then, it's just a matter of time before we start finding weapons of mass destruction there or something else like that and we have to invade and 'save' our oil!!!!
Good to see you, AGS and you hit the nail on the proverbial head!
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I can't seem to get it right but in my mind Charley and I had the same position on one claim in that interview. The allegation against Jug was over the top and not supported by any truth and we both felt it should be refuted. Nothing more nothing less.
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Quote from: NM on January 17, 2008, 06:14:04 PM
Quote from: Helen Back on January 17, 2008, 06:01:20 PM
Frozenbrokenhair!
Anna, way to tell it over at ZoltanZion!
It seems TJ Ward smacked down Michael Archer on Star Jone's show. Sorry I missed it.
You guys remember Michael Archer, the famous forensic scientist we can't find any info or CV for that Joe Tacopina took to Aruba? You know, the one whose bio was on Wikipedia until even that disappeared some time ago?
Not only does he have no credentials that we can find, he has sent a "cease and desist" letter to TJ Ward.......from himself!
OMG.....too funny!
Hi Helen Back,
Maybe he stayed at a Holiday Inn Express!
Is this for real? I mean is it possible to be as stupid as these things happening?
Anna's description of the hair was too funny.
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Quote from: SunnyinTX on January 17, 2008, 06:45:37 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 17, 2008, 06:29:34 PM
Julia Renfro and Charlierat's mindsets are one this issue.
I believe that Julia and Charlierat's condemnation of Castillo and Young's actions are motivated by the realization that their past insinuations that undermine the words, actions and intentions of Natalee's family is one thing but ... the outright accusations of these two loonies in the audio recording are another ... especially when the legally implications in regards to lawsuits are taken into consideration.
Tamikosmom is not giving Julia Renfro and Charlierat any slack. They have not diverted from their long established agenda to distance Joran and Paulus by sifting the focus of blame on the victim and her family.
Monkeys ... I have accumulated Julia and Charlierat's dispicable posts in regards to Natalee and Beth.
I would feel that I am betraying the Natalee's family and Natalee's memories by giving them the benefit of the doubt without reading in a submitted post that there was "genuine" repetence for their dispicable words ... for their cruel insinuations.
IMO
Janet
Janet...I am 100 million percent with you on this.....and we know this is never going to happen...I was sent the rat's post on RU re: PI's post....I will not post it here...but it is his usual nasty self posting....
I still can't understand, and have given up trying, how those people can be so ugly and nasty about a mother trying to find out what happened to her daughter and seeing those responsible brought to justice....such a 'soul' sick group of people
I saw the post, but I think I had already addressed his "point" in a later post:) But I don't care what he says about me, I was interested in his "fairness" to Jug, on this one issue. I still think he is wrong and he still thinks he is right. Anyway, much ado about nothing I promise you. I have not softened and he certainly hasn't and anyone who attacks Beth will get my disapproval full blast, because that is what I do.
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Quote from: Anna on January 17, 2008, 04:33:22 PM
I still wonder if that Michael Archer is the failed mortician, the one being sued. Anyway, looks as though he is trying to silence TJ Ward presenting his information concerning PVDS/SweatyManWhoRunsLikea Girl.
http://zoltanzion.blogspot.com/
Check out his threatening to sue TJWard. I wonder if he knew about the Sloots promoting these two psychics when he started threatening others with slander/libel suits.
Whoa, Bob Barr. I think a barr trumps a taco any day. Bob Barr of impeachment fame.
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Quote from: private eye on January 17, 2008, 04:47:05 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 17, 2008, 04:34:23 PM
Quote from: klaasend on January 17, 2008, 11:43:48 AM
This was just emailed to me. Posted by Charlierat at the BNH site. Remember Charlierat met Carol at the Birmingham book signing:
Thank you Klaas.
It is a wonder that Carol was gracious enough to give Charlierat the time of day.
Anyways ... my concern ... if this meeting that Carol had with Castillo and Young was recorded ... it is possible that this recording has been manipulated ... manipulated in a way that directs defamation against Jug.
When I listed to that so-called press conference yesterday ... the press conference that spew nothing but lies ... I would not put anything past these friends of the VDS'.
Janet
I think Charlie is a lot more personable in person and he feels the same way about Beth I gather from one of his posts. I really don't understand how he arrived at his "opposition" but I feel like if he knew what Beth knew the difference would not be so great. Or if he knew Beth as I do. Perfect, certainly not, but she is a simply a nice person, stronger than most, whose daughter is missing and she is doing the best she can.
I think Charlie supports Aruba more than he dislikes Beth. Anyway, I don't mean to put words in his mouth or post for him, as he is certainly a better source to describe his position than I.
If you are not from Birmingham, you don't understand that "over the mountain" mentality between MB and SS.
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Quote from: Helen Back on January 17, 2008, 06:01:20 PM
Frozenbrokenhair!
Anna, way to tell it over at ZoltanZion!
It seems TJ Ward smacked down Michael Archer on Star Jone's show. Sorry I missed it.
You guys remember Michael Archer, the famous forensic scientist we can't find any info or CV for that Joe Tacopina took to Aruba? You know, the one whose bio was on Wikipedia until even that disappeared some time ago?
Not only does he have no credentials that we can find, he has sent a "cease and desist" letter to TJ Ward.......from himself!
OMG.....too funny!
Is it just me or do others find it just plain darned odd that Joe T would take this grossly obese, failed mortician to Aruba masquerading as a forensic scientist? I mean odd even for a mob lawyer, ChiefWhoseClientsSleepWithThe Fishes? Try to get a visual of those two prancing around Aruba to see what I mean.
And he is concerned that TJ Ward is talking too much? Sounds as though TJ got the best of him on the program and he is still steamed about it. Suing TJ would be the best thing they could do as it would allow TJ to present his evidence in court and it would become public record for the whole world to see.
ClientsSleepWithTheFishes might want to think about that before taking these drastic threatened measures.
Or maybe he can lie again and claim TJ made a crude comment after the program as he did with Peter Devries when we all saw the tape and know that didn't happen. Also odd this joker wrote the letter to TJ Ward himself saying if TJ doesn't stop saying that, Joe T is gonna sue him. Don't attorneys normally make those kind of threats themselves. Maybe MorticianBoy forgot to mention this to his boss?
More clowns in action.
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Quote from: private eye on January 17, 2008, 06:46:44 PM
I can't seem to get it right but in my mind Charley and I had the same position on one claim in that interview. The allegation against Jug was over the top and not supported by any truth and we both felt it should be refuted. Nothing more nothing less.
PI ... same position but ... different motivations.
I believe that your position is unselfishly motivated by a strong sense of what is right.
However ... when I consider Julia and Charlierat's dispicable insinuations submitted in the past posts ... posts that demean the character of Natalee, Beth and Jug ... I conclude that Charlierat and Julia's positions are selfishly motivation ... a motivation that will distance them from being associated with a possible defamation of character lawsuit.
IMO
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Quote from: private eye on January 17, 2008, 06:59:12 PM
I saw the post, but I think I had already addressed his "point" in a later post:) But I don't care what he says about me, I was interested in his "fairness" to Jug, on this one issue. I still think he is wrong and he still thinks he is right. Anyway, much ado about nothing I promise you. I have not softened and he certainly hasn't and anyone who attacks Beth will get my disapproval full blast, because that is what I do.
And you have the monks backing you all the way
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===> Robyn Gardner missing in Aruba August 2, 2011
=> Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives
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Virginia Area Missing and Murdered - possible connections
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=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
=> Hannah Elizabeth Graham missing since 9/13/14 Charlottesville, VA
=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
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===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
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=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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