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Topic: Caylee Marie Anthony #127 4/25/09 - 5/01/09 (Read 295916 times)
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #127
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Quote from: BooMonkey on April 26, 2009, 07:23:25 PM
So last thread MizJay commented on Lee:
The only plausible explanation is that his mother has implanted a micro chip that works someyhing like a shock collar. Everytime he starts to say anything that could make sense zzzzziiiinnnnggg!
Interesting concept. How would we act if we lived in that house with those people as our parents. Here we are, living our lives, finally made it out of that hell hole and along comes our sister who kills her child. The parents call you and send you after her, find out what she's doing, find out where Caylee is. He can't nail her down (that we KNOW of). So finally the confrontation goes down and you are given this lie of The Nanny took her. You go with it b/c no one at that point is really thinking Caylee is dead. Bizarre, your life is now TV fodder with your Mom and Dad taking the lead and doing their antics on the front lawn.
You KNOW your Mom is a control freak, you don't cross her b/c you have seen what she does to Casey and she is demanding you take part in this. She looks to you to play the strong one b/c George is a wuss. How do you act? What do you do when you find out chit about your sister no one suspected??
No defending Lee at all, he's an ass who obviously doesn't know how to act in public, who is a puppet for his mother. But how does the average person raised in that environment continue on in that life? Do you walk away, say KC is guilty and throw your hands up? OK now they will never speak to you again. (Easier to say, Oh hell yah, than to live it). Or do you continue to go along with the game and do and say what your Mom says too. Now you are shades of your Father whom you have nothing but contempt for. You are now living his life. The one thing he did right was staying out of the lime light when we were all screaming for Cindy to go away. But she dragged him back in.
JMO, it's slow here. Trying to look at all angles.
Boo, if I lived in that house I would hope the shock collar zapped me dead. JMO JSM
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Quote from: Gypsy DD on April 26, 2009, 07:45:19 PM
JSM..I agree ..they were each users of Caylee's..no unconditional love for her on either side..including George and Lee. Caylee was a battleground..unfortunately no child knows how to traverse that ground. In this case because we are dealing with a functional sociopathic grandmother, and an dysfunctional sociopathic mother, Caylee never had a fighting chance. She was a token in their ongoing battle to one up each other. If Cindy had truly loved Caylee..months before this happened she would have sought help for Caylee and Casey and sought custodyof Caylee..but Cindy's mouth is bigger then her heart..she is a true bully who only wanted Caylee so she could chastise her daughter..Caylee was lost in their dysfunctional relationship. She was never a little person to them..she was an object to wrestle over/
ITA If Cindy truly knew how to handle her daughter, instead of trying to rub KC's face in it and make sure she knew what a crappy mother she was, she would have convinced KC that she should give custody of Caylee over to her for insurance purposes. Then once the paperwork was done, boot her out!
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #127
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Im out...cyas tomorrow hopefully with the expected document dump - should be here no later than Wed.
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #127
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Quote from: Gypsy DD on April 26, 2009, 07:45:19 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on April 26, 2009, 05:24:23 PM
Quote from: Puzzler on April 26, 2009, 05:11:04 PM
I forget who said it but: KC hated her mother more that she loved Caylee. That sentence rolls around in my head sometimes. I guess it's really true, too.
Cindy might not have been the best grandma, but I do believe she loved Caylee and if Casey really only wanted a life away from home to spend time partying with her druggie friends, I'm sure that Cindy would have taken care of Caylee.
IMO...KC's b*tch hate was so strong she was determined that Cindy would NOT get Caylee. That's what led to the demise of Caylee....KC's stubborness and hatefulness.
Her single-minded will that Cindy would not get Caylee because KC thought her mother loved Caylee more than her. ARROGANCE!!!
It's hard to understand this kind of willfullness...when it would have been so easy for KC to simply say to Cindy: you take Caylee...I'm outta' here!
I think Cindy "loved" Caylee, but I believe Cindy's version of "love" is more of a posession than total unconditional love. Cindy could use Caylee as a threat to KC. KC could use Caylee as a threat to Cindy. Caylee was like a two way sword for them. They both used Caylee as a barganing chip. Cindy used Caylee as a way to keep KC at the house and under Cindy's thumb. KC kept Caylee away from Cindy just to see how far KC could get under Cindy's skin. JMO JSM
JSM..I agree ..they were each users of Caylee's..no unconditional love for her on either side..including George and Lee. Caylee was a battleground..unfortunately no child knows how to traverse that ground. In this case because we are dealing with a functional sociopathic grandmother, and an dysfunctional sociopathic mother, Caylee never had a fighting chance. She was a token in their ongoing battle to one up each other. If Cindy had truly loved Caylee..months before this happened she would have sought help for Caylee and Casey and sought custodyof Caylee..but Cindy's mouth is bigger then her heart..she is a true bully who only wanted Caylee so she could chastise her daughter..Caylee was lost in their dysfunctional relationship. She was never a little person to them..she was an object to wrestle over/
Gosh Gypsy, you made it sound so much better than I ever could.
The best I could say is Caylee was a football as an analogy. They each used her to get a first down or a touchdown and they each kept score. Then when the game was really tight, Cindy fumbled the ball IMO when she let Caylee go with KC Father's day night. I hate them. JSM
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #127
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Quote from: BooMonkey on April 26, 2009, 07:48:53 PM
Quote from: Tevye on April 26, 2009, 07:31:11 PM
Quote from: BooMonkey on April 26, 2009, 07:23:25 PM
So last thread MizJay commented on Lee:
The only plausible explanation is that his mother has implanted a micro chip that works someyhing like a shock collar. Everytime he starts to say anything that could make sense zzzzziiiinnnnggg!
JMO, it's slow here. Trying to look at all angles.
But still, how to explain the blue eyeshadow?!
Tevye, there are just some things that defy explanation!
Like the knee-high socks?
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #127
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Quote from: Cappuccino on April 26, 2009, 07:59:37 PM
Im out...cyas tomorrow hopefully with the expected document dump - should be here no later than Wed.
Good night Cappuccino
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #127
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Quote from: BooMonkey on April 26, 2009, 07:57:47 PM
Quote from: Gypsy DD on April 26, 2009, 07:45:19 PM
JSM..I agree ..they were each users of Caylee's..no unconditional love for her on either side..including George and Lee. Caylee was a battleground..unfortunately no child knows how to traverse that ground. In this case because we are dealing with a functional sociopathic grandmother, and an dysfunctional sociopathic mother, Caylee never had a fighting chance. She was a token in their ongoing battle to one up each other. If Cindy had truly loved Caylee..months before this happened she would have sought help for Caylee and Casey and sought custodyof Caylee..but Cindy's mouth is bigger then her heart..she is a true bully who only wanted Caylee so she could chastise her daughter..Caylee was lost in their dysfunctional relationship. She was never a little person to them..she was an object to wrestle over/
ITA If Cindy truly knew how to handle her daughter, instead of trying to rub KC's face in it and make sure she knew what a crappy mother she was, she would have convinced KC that she should give custody of Caylee over to her for insurance purposes. Then once the paperwork was done, boot her out!
Yep Boo, Cindy rubbed her face in everything KC ever did. When this first came out I thought Cindy was the root of all of the evil in the house. Maybe JSM has some magic intuition after all.
Not that I put blame soley on Cindy. KC killed poor Caylee, I just believe in my heart that Cindy was a reason she did it, not that partying for KC didn't make her do it either. I just think Cindy threw KC over the edge. JMO for what its worth JSM
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Im out...cyas tomorrow hopefully with the expected document dump - should be here no later than Wed.
Good night Cappuccino
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Quote from: Cappuccino on April 26, 2009, 07:59:37 PM
Im out...cyas tomorrow hopefully with the expected document dump - should be here no later than Wed.
Nitey night Cappy. I am heading that way myself. Sleep well my monkey mate.
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The thing that has always bothered me the most (there are many, but this told the whole story to me) was after the car was retreived smelling like death, the baby's missing 31 days, daughter is awol and Cindy says to George go to work I'll handle it..and the way she handles this situation..she herself proceeds to go back to work. Her boss and co workers told her to go home and to find Casey and take care of business..that didn't work..her boss tells her to call LE and to get this resolved..go home..that didn't work..her boss had to call a regional manager to read Cindy the riot act that she needed to go home,call LE nad find her daughter and grand daughter. Could someone have been more engrossed in making money at that point then Cindy..hell no..no one is missing work on account of this little interference.
Now..I ask you...how many people would have reacted like Cindy and just gone back to work, sent their husband to work ..when the car smelled like a dead body..forget your daughter AWOL with your Grand D ..wouldn't that alone said call the police..
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #127
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Quote from: Cappuccino on April 26, 2009, 07:59:37 PM
Im out...cyas tomorrow hopefully with the expected document dump - should be here no later than Wed.
Nitey night Cappy. I am heading that way myself. Sleep well my monkey mate.
Night Monkeys, I don't know why you guys are going to bed so early?!
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The thing that has always bothered me the most (there are many, but this told the whole story to me) was after the car was retreived smelling like death, the baby's missing 31 days, daughter is awol and Cindy says to George go to work I'll handle it..and the way she handles this situation..she herself proceeds to go back to work. Her boss and co workers told her to go home and to find Casey and take care of business..that didn't work..her boss tells her to call LE and to get this resolved..go home..that didn't work..her boss had to call a regional manager to read Cindy the riot act that she needed to go home,call LE nad find her daughter and grand daughter. Could someone have been more engrossed in making money at that point then Cindy..hell no..no one is missing work on account of this little interference.
Now..I ask you...how many people would have reacted like Cindy and just gone back to work, sent their husband to work ..when the car smelled like a dead body..forget your daughter AWOL with your Grand D ..wouldn't that alone said call the police..
I would not have done anything else till I got to the bottom of all of that....where is my grand daughter, where did that smell come from? I could never have gone to work, never...
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Night Monkeys. I hope to catch up in the morning. I am going to bed now. Sorry if I have been off topic any tonight. I tried very hard to be on topic.
I stayed up really late last night and need to take my medicine. Hugs and love to all. JSM
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Night Monkeys. I hope to catch up in the morning. I am going to bed now. Sorry if I have been off topic any tonight.
I tried very hard to be on topic.
I stayed up really late last night and need to take my medicine. Hugs and love to all. JSM
JSM, I know you are trying. You could always chit chat with the others in musings, when you get the urge to get too OT too often.
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I re-listened to the Dominic Casey police interviews today and so many thoughts crowded my mind as I listened.
Why is it not a conflict of interest for Brad Conway to represent both Cindy/George Anthony and Dominic Casey? Conway’s representation of both parties smacks of collusion. Of course, that goes right along with Dominic Casey working for Baez first and then for Cindy/George/Casey. The man had an agreement with Jose Baez, now he has an agreement with Casey Anthony and another agreement with Cindy/George Anthony. Even if incest rumors within the Anthony family have been stifled, there is certainly an element of incest within the legal and/or investigative team representing the family, imo.
In his police interview, it took Dominic Casey around 45 minutes to finally own up that he was looking for Caylee’s body. Initially, he maintained that he was ruling out the area as a teen hangout, but he finally did admit that he was looking for Caylee’s body. He continued to claim it was because of a psychic tip.
I have no doubt that a psychic called Dominic. After all, it had been common knowledge that cell phone calls were being tracked. The CAST (Casey Anthony Support Team) would make sure this would check out. However, there is nothing to prevent the “psychic” from being contacted (paid/otherwise compensated) to make the call with the info that needed to be made public knowledge, imo.
Why?
I keep going back to Casey’s jail phone comment that the police were going to blame her if Caylee was not found. She convinced the CAST that Caylee’s body had to be found, imo. IMO, this is what Lee Anthony was referring to at Caylee’s memorial service when he said he hoped “CMA” would be proud of him. IMO, Lee is the one who arranged for Caylee’s body to be “found”. I have not decided if I think Kronk was planted or not. He could have been manipulated, and not realized it. Or he could be a part of the CAST.
Cindy’s comment on the VM to police that Casey had to have help was, for once, the truth. But the help was with the cover up and subsequent “discovery” of Caylee’s remains, not with the act of murder. (Yes, George, I said “remains”. What else could we refer to what was left of poor, sweet, innocent Caylee? There was no body to recover and this Angel’s soul had long since flown to Heaven. So, remains would be accurate.)
I believe that Casey dumped her daughter’s body in the spot it was found between 24-June-2008 and the date she abandoned the car at Amscot. I believe Casey thought she could pull off the kidnapping story, but she also wanted a backup plan so she attempted to frame Jesse Grund. IMO, Casey was very disappointed when she was unable to seduce Jesse the day she took a shower at his apartment. Had Jesse fallen prey to Casey (once again) on that occasion, Casey would have promptly gone to the police/the ER and claimed rape of herself and kidnapping of Caylee by Jesse. I also believe that she intended for Jesse’s fresh fingerprints to be on her car, hence the call to Jesse to run to her aid.
I made the statement early in this case that Jesse would always be Casey’s sucker. I am happy to say that I was wrong. IMO, Jesse is a very fortunate young man to have escaped Casey’s plans for his life, not once, but twice.
IMO…IMO…IMO…
I wholeheartedly believe that the legal portion of the CAST is looking to use this case to challenge the State of Florida Sunshine Laws as they pertain to private citizens. They could not care less about Casey Anthony or Caylee Anthony, imo. Caylee’s murder and Casey’s charges are but a convenient vehicle for their own agenda, imo.
Frankly, while I have latched onto the document dumps as eagerly as anyone else, I am appalled that we are able to read this much information before the case goes to trial. My understanding of the original intent of the Sunshine Laws is that they were put in place to prevent governmental corruption by public officials. I see great good in that function of the law. However, I think that the Sunshine Laws, as applied to this particular case, could be challenged as violating the accused’s right to a fair trial. IMO.
I would really hate for Caylee’s murderer to go unpunished because of legal/political maneuvering.
If I haven’t made it sufficiently clear, all the above is only my opinion based on what I have read about the case.
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I agree that someone told DC where to look for the body. It was Lee im sure of it. He was the only one who could get that information from KC. But when? I'm sure the house is bugged as are the phones. So do you suppose it was through JB???
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I think Lee had to have gotten the info thru JB or when Casey was out on bond. Do you feel that a lot of damage was done by bonding Casey out of jail? Not that I'm blaming LP. I think his heart was in the right place.
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I think Lee had to have gotten the info thru JB or when Casey was out on bond. Do you feel that a lot of damage was done by bonding Casey out of jail? Not that I'm blaming LP. I think his heart was in the right place.
Treehouse...your post up above makes alot of sense. I have always thought the car was left at Amscot hoping it would be stolen.
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=====> Caylee Marie Anthony Murder Trial Archives
===> Sierra Lamar, 15yrs old, Morgan Hill, CA Missing Since March 16, 2012
===> JO ANN (JODIE) BAIN AND 3 DAUGHTERS MISSING 4/27/2012(2 murdered 2 safe)
===> Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6 yrs old missing 4/21/12 Tucson, AZ (Body Found)
===> Jennifer Kesse - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Susan Powell 28yrs old, missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
===> Michelle Loree Parker, Last Seen 11/17/11, Orlando, FL
===> Celina Cass, 11yrs old missing 7/25/11 New Hampshire
===> Aliayah Lunsford, 3yrs old, Weston, West VA, missing since 9/24/2011
===> Lisa Irwin, 10mo old missing since 10/4/2011 KC, MO
===> Robyn Gardner missing in Aruba August 2, 2011
=> Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives
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Virginia Area Missing and Murdered - possible connections
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=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
=> Hannah Elizabeth Graham missing since 9/13/14 Charlottesville, VA
=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
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=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
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===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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