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AZLady
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #27
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We knew at the beginning of this case that if Casey didn't tell the truth, then Baez would need to find a fall guy, someone to blame instead of Casey. Jesse appears to be the fall guy. I think he'll come out of this all right, as he appears honest and upright. I wonder who they might choose as the next fall guy when Jesse is exonerated?
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Quote from: ilovegoodies on September 21, 2008, 05:26:11 PM
this gets more confusing by the day!! Was it a NG or LP tidbit that LE thinks KC had help? If so I sure hope it wasn't J Grund. I'm hoping he was set up to be the fall guy in all of this. all the way down to maybe showering DNA down his drain pipes. Wonder did police check his phone records to see if KC's usual calls showed up on his phones for that 24 hr. period or whatever she made no calls. I hope that man passed his poly. if so and someone did try to set him up would that make it M # 1 if a friendship was renewed out of the blue quite recently? Introduced to Tony so feelings of jealousy could be said to be motive to mom. Oh my just thinking about the possibilities here.
I too think other people are involved. I think one or more of them may be people we've not heard about yet, though.
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Quote from: AZLady on September 21, 2008, 05:36:49 PM
We knew at the beginning of this case that if Casey didn't tell the truth, then Baez would need to find a fall guy, someone to blame instead of Casey. Jesse appears to be the fall guy. I think he'll come out of this all right, as he appears honest and upright. I wonder who they might choose as the next fall guy when Jesse is exonerated?
My vote is TonE, Clint, and Nate.
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Well, a lot of people were really ready to jump on Casey's "new" friends as a bad influence at the beginning of this case.
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Quote from: Switchy on September 21, 2008, 05:37:52 PM
Quote from: AZLady on September 21, 2008, 05:36:49 PM
We knew at the beginning of this case that if Casey didn't tell the truth, then Baez would need to find a fall guy, someone to blame instead of Casey. Jesse appears to be the fall guy. I think he'll come out of this all right, as he appears honest and upright. I wonder who they might choose as the next fall guy when Jesse is exonerated?
My vote is TonE, Clint, and Nate.
Me too. They are next in line.
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #27
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"LONDON: A fascinating study has suggested that if you want to know if a person is telling the truth, keep an eye on the eyes, for liars blink in different ways during and after a falsehood.
The study, published in the 'Journal of Non-verbal Behaviour', found that
liars blink less than normal during the lie, and then have a flurry up to eight times faster than usual afterwards.
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Here is the link for the full story:
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1184761
Jesse's interview on Geraldo appeared to me to be well rehearsed and he stayed very controlled and did well. However, I noticed 3 odd moments:
1) Watch Jesse blink after he denies any involvement with Caylee's disappearance.
2) Jesse never said he doesn't believe Casey hurt Caylee, he
carefully
said that she wouldn't do it
purposely
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3) On his own,
without Geraldo asking the question
, Jesse brought up that Casey talked about Zanny the nanny last year.
I'm guessing the Grund's are getting lawyered up.
There are now 2 instances of Jesse trying to throw off the timeline (the phone call where he "maybe" heard Caylee in the background, and the "shower") and now he's talking about Zanny. His stories are starting to sound as crazy as Cindy's.
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Quote from: Switchy on September 21, 2008, 05:32:44 PM
Quote from: mytime on September 21, 2008, 05:25:59 PM
Sorry, I messed up my post.
Az, love you, hate your theory!! Don't you think that "they" would have come up with a much better lie than Zanny the Nanny!
"They" may have told Casey it was her problem to explain the disappearance of Caylee - with the only instruction being she'd better not mention a word about anything having to do with "them."
If something like this did happen, Casey would really be between a rock and a hard place. If she reported the crime/death, she'd be charged right along with the rest of them, not to mention her family and friends finding out the truth about where she was going every day with Caylee.
It's just a theory.
Some people have a twisted imagination.....just goes to show how many different scenarios fit. I'm begining to think we'll never know what happened.....
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #27
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3 year old pornography? willingl by a 23 year old mother possibly abused as a child? GET A GRIP PEOPLE.
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #27
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Quote from: AZLady on September 21, 2008, 05:07:12 PM
Quote from: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 21, 2008, 04:54:03 PM
AZ lady said:
I don't know what drugs Casey took. But, I do have my own theory about the chloroform that most people don't like hearing, so I don't mention it.
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Well, if my theory is wrong, I just might use it as the plot for a mystery novel!! It has to do with child porn rings (very lucrative businesses, by the way) and a child being subdued with chloroform while being abused. A young and selfish mother sees this as a way to make money, but her child never wakes up after the chloroform is administered. She is warned not to speak of what she knows, and so she stays silent, afraid of the people involved in this very illegal business.
BINGO, my thoughts also. Nothing she wouldn't do for money (MO only).
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #27
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Quote from: Switchy on September 21, 2008, 05:32:44 PM
Quote from: mytime on September 21, 2008, 05:25:59 PM
Sorry, I messed up my post.
Az, love you, hate your theory!! Don't you think that "they" would have come up with a much better lie than Zanny the Nanny!
"They" may have told Casey it was her problem to explain the disappearance of Caylee - with the only instruction being she'd better not mention a word about anything having to do with "them."
If something like this did happen, Casey would really be between a rock and a hard place. If she reported the crime/death, she'd be charged right along with the rest of them, not to mention her family and friends finding out the truth about where she was going every day with Caylee.
It's just a theory.
It is very true that pedophiles don't venture out of a closeknit circle. They don't publicize their activity to many. Casey could have stumbled into a ring and she needed the money. But they packed up and left town leaving her the body of Caylee and she had to dispose of it. If Casey called the cops they wouldn't believe her because the ring was gone into their scary secret location. And there was no way Casey could prove that she didn't kill Caylee so she was scared.
This goes along with the story she told the cops. This goes along with her behavior and lies. But she never mentions a porn ring to the cops... instead she uses the nanny story. A nanny who didn't exist for 2 years.
So Casey could have stumbled into a ring in desperation for money because she was living out of her car when her parents kicked her out.
And maybe George knew that other children die like this and it may have been another little girl in the trunk to scare Casey. Which means George was in on it some how. Maybe George hooked Casey up to pimp Caylee?
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #27
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Quote from: Tony on September 21, 2008, 05:39:32 PM
3 year old pornography? willingl by a 23 year old mother possibly abused as a child? GET A GRIP PEOPLE.
Interesting name there Tony.
So you are thinking Casey acted alone because she was mental?
What is your theory of the chloroform?
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Quote from: Tony on September 21, 2008, 05:39:32 PM
3 year old pornography? willingl by a 23 year old mother possibly abused as a child? GET A GRIP PEOPLE.
Unfortunately, it happens every day.
http://www.woai.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=b6868eed-f1fd-4b27-abec-da9b3f81ac96
Mom Accused of Trying To Sell Young Daughter For Sex
Last Update: 8/25 2:34 pm
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Federal court documents say an informant tipped off the F.B.I. after getting a text message from Block that said his girlfriend had a 5-year-old she wanted to sell. (News 4)
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Related Story: Couple Accused of Trying To Sell 5-Year-Old For Sex To Remain in Jail
Related Story: 10-Month-Old Was Part of the Sell For Sex Deal
SAN ANTONIO, TX -- A mother and her boyfriend are in jail, accused of trying to sell the woman's 5-year-old daughter for sex.
Jennifer Richards and Sean Michael Block are being held in the Geo Federal Jail Downtown.
The two were picked up earlier this week after FBI agents arrested them with the help of a confidential informant.
News 4 obtained the court documents that laid out the FBI's investigation. The FBI says Block sent a text message to the informant that said: "Nice piece, five-years-old, belongs to my GF and she wants to sell."
The informant then talked to Block on the phone and again, according to court documents, Block told the informant - "Jenn had a five-year-old daughter that she desired to have engage in sexual contact with and adult male."
The FBI then says Richards began talking to the informant on the phone and sent pictures of her five-year-old and 10-month-old daughters to the informant.
The FBI says Richards told the informant these sexual interactions would be a positive experience for the five-year-old. All she wanted, according to the FBI, was for the informant to furnish an apartment and an used automobile for the sex.
The FBI says this information was enough to put the two in jail.
Block is facing charges of sending child pornography over the internet. Richards is facing a federal charge of trying to sell her daughter.
Both will have a bond hearing in front of a judge on Friday.
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After watching Oprah the other night, about internet child porn (it was sooooooo distrubing) anything is possible. I just hate to even think she that evil. She is evil enough with what we do already know! I also think the media, some investigating journalists, would have uncovered some of this and it would have been mentioned already. JMO
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WOW. Those people are f'ing sick, and that text message is just completely disgusting.
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Quote from: jjayinthemorning on September 21, 2008, 05:35:34 PM
Quote from: AZLady on September 21, 2008, 05:18:20 PM
I perceive Casey as being very attracted to big money and not particularly concerned as to the legality of it. Pornography and drugs attract big, big money. I don't see her as being particularly involved with drugs, but sex was a significant part of Casey's life. The chloroform is known to be used in "unusual" sex and in child pornography. Now, this is just my own theory--I am not pushing it as a fact because I don't have any more information than anyone else about this case. I just put together the weird bits and pieces of this case and came to this theory.
Good theory! So Zanny would be the one who took Caylee and did these acts. And one day Zanny just didn't come back because maybe Casey demanded payment since she was broke? Or Zanny was Casey's porn nickname because she loved Xanax so much.
And I suspect now that the Fusion owner would have the connections to buyers.
There is absolutely no evidence of this. This has already been explored in old posts.
Really good point, where was Casey all day long? Pimping her daughter?
Where was she between 6/17 and 6/27?
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Quote from: jjayinthemorning on September 21, 2008, 05:43:34 PM
Quote from: Switchy on September 21, 2008, 05:32:44 PM
Quote from: mytime on September 21, 2008, 05:25:59 PM
Sorry, I messed up my post.
Az, love you, hate your theory!! Don't you think that "they" would have come up with a much better lie than Zanny the Nanny!
"They" may have told Casey it was her problem to explain the disappearance of Caylee - with the only instruction being she'd better not mention a word about anything having to do with "them."
If something like this did happen, Casey would really be between a rock and a hard place. If she reported the crime/death, she'd be charged right along with the rest of them, not to mention her family and friends finding out the truth about where she was going every day with Caylee.
It's just a theory.
It is very true that pedophiles don't venture out of a closeknit circle. They don't publicize their activity to many. Casey could have stumbled into a ring and she needed the money. But they packed up and left town leaving her the body of Caylee and she had to dispose of it. If Casey called the cops they wouldn't believe her because the ring was gone into their scary secret location. And there was no way Casey could prove that she didn't kill Caylee so she was scared.
This goes along with the story she told the cops. This goes along with her behavior and lies. But she never mentions a porn ring to the cops... instead she uses the nanny story. A nanny who didn't exist for 2 years.
So Casey could have stumbled into a ring in desperation for money because she was living out of her car when her parents kicked her out.
And maybe George knew that other children die like this and it may have been another little girl in the trunk to scare Casey. Which means George was in on it some how. Maybe George hooked Casey up to pimp Caylee?
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I would suspect that Casey never intended for Caylee to be hurt in the photos or whatever they might have done if there was a porn ring. But aren't the children kept in a place for this to happen? Does child porn happen to people who are homeless? I would think that would be more dangerous for the buyers because they would be more visable.
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Quote from: mytime on September 21, 2008, 05:48:26 PM
After watching Oprah the other night, about internet child porn (it was sooooooo distrubing) anything is possible. I just hate to even think she that evil. She is evil enough with what we do already know!
I also think the media, some investigating journalists, would have uncovered some of this and it would have been mentioned already.
JMO
You would think. That girl who recently died at the hands of her uncle, who tried to initiate her into a supposedly sex ring.. before they even found her body (IIRC), there was talk of that, between the uncle and the girl's step-dad.
It's just so amazing how sick people are. It's bad enough when you're hurting children, but when you're doing it to a child you're related to, who is supposed to trust you?
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Quote from: iris44 on September 21, 2008, 05:49:16 PM
Quote from: jjayinthemorning on September 21, 2008, 05:35:34 PM
Quote from: AZLady on September 21, 2008, 05:18:20 PM
I perceive Casey as being very attracted to big money and not particularly concerned as to the legality of it. Pornography and drugs attract big, big money. I don't see her as being particularly involved with drugs, but sex was a significant part of Casey's life. The chloroform is known to be used in "unusual" sex and in child pornography. Now, this is just my own theory--I am not pushing it as a fact because I don't have any more information than anyone else about this case. I just put together the weird bits and pieces of this case and came to this theory.
Good theory! So Zanny would be the one who took Caylee and did these acts. And one day Zanny just didn't come back because maybe Casey demanded payment since she was broke? Or Zanny was Casey's porn nickname because she loved Xanax so much.
And I suspect now that the Fusion owner would have the connections to buyers.
Really good point, where was Casey all day long? Pimping her daughter?
Where was she between 6/17 and 6/27?
Sorry, this is a correction:
My comment is that there is absolutely no evidence of a porn or child porn. It was well explored in earlier posts.
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Quote from: jjayinthemorning on September 21, 2008, 05:50:38 PM
I would suspect that Casey never intended for Caylee to be hurt in the photos or whatever they might have done if there was a porn ring. But aren't the children kept in a place for this to happen? Does child porn happen to people who are homeless? I would think that would be more dangerous for the buyers because they would be more visable.
You just reminded me of that other case not that long ago.. that tape some guy claims he found in the desert.. showing a little girl being abused. They found the girl, and the mom claims she had no idea any of that took place, and that her daughter seemed "normal".
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===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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