Haleigh Marie Cummings #12 4/13/09 - 4/28/09

[Maven]

another great pic Brandi! Thank you for sharing. I have seen that picture of Haleigh before, and it makes me cry each time I see it, my daughter has a sweater just like that, she loves it, of course she doesn't get to wear it too often down here, I'm sure Haleigh loved hers too.

May tomorrow be the day Haleigh is finally found and can go home!
Prayers for Haleigh!

[Maven]

"Ronald expressed his displeasure with the company for going back on its word, but at no time threatened anyone."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-haleigh-press-release-cummings-041609,0,1808531.story

anyone else wonder exactly how Ronald's "displeasure" was expressed? Was it like the "displeasure" noted on the police report about his dumb b*tch girlfriend letting his daughter get stole? or Was it more like the "displeasure" he expressed in the background of the 911 call? and Why would they feel the need to say he at no time threatened anyone? The original report didn't say any such thing.

makes me wonder especially after this comment from his former employer.

"This week PDM asked Putnam County deputies to monitor shift changes at the plant that employs about 120 people and manufactures structural sections for steel bridges. McCauley would not say if the company had a specific reason for the request but only that it is done in some cases.

"It's just a judgment call you make from employee to employee based on what might happen," he said."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-father-loses-job-story,0,5007318.story

case by case basis huh? I wonder how many times RC had expressed "displeasure" at work or around fellow employees. They say they make the judgment call from employee to employee, I wonder if Crystal's claims aren't that far from the truth after all.

This statement from PDM obviously hit a nerve in the Cummings camp.

[Blumonkey]

^^^^^^Again...I am by no means an expert on employment/unemployment cases...just throwing it out there to see what you all thought about it....I am sure that there is someone on here who is actively involved in this sortof thing who could give us some good advice on the matter....

I'm no expert either but with the economy the way it is and state budgets the way they are, the labor board may go in favor of the employer.  These are hard times you know??..

He most likely is not eligible for FMLA if he has worked there for less than one year. Most large companies have human resource specialist who make sure they are within the law when they fire an employee.

[starcat29]

ok here is what was on the bulletin this morning not sure if any of it is true just wanted to share it with you all

pr 17, 2009 6:13 AM
Subject:    Repost:Police Checking Into Possible Sighting Of Haleigh~
Body:    ----------------- Bulletin Message -----------------
From: Dreamfinder
To:
Date: Apr 17, 2009 3:25 AM
Subject: Police Checking into Possible Sighting of Haleigh


Just to let you all know that police are now checking into the tip recieved on the possible sighting of Haleigh. His licence was ran down and a name given to authorities and they're checking it out. Let's all pray tonight that she is found and returned home. Thanks for everyone who responded it all helped. Pray Pray Pray! The man was out of Missouri and has a criminal record is what I heard so it could be something.


God Bless

Elizabeth

[mlee]

ok here is what was on the bulletin this morning not sure if any of it is true just wanted to share it with you all

pr 17, 2009 6:13 AM
Subject:    Repost:Police Checking Into Possible Sighting Of Haleigh~
Body:    ----------------- Bulletin Message -----------------
From: Dreamfinder
To:
Date: Apr 17, 2009 3:25 AM
Subject: Police Checking into Possible Sighting of Haleigh


Just to let you all know that police are now checking into the tip recieved on the possible sighting of Haleigh. His licence was ran down and a name given to authorities and they're checking it out. Let's all pray tonight that she is found and returned home. Thanks for everyone who responded it all helped. Pray Pray Pray! The man was out of Missouri and has a criminal record is what I heard so it could be something.


God Bless

Elizabeth

This is such good news this morning..  I tried to find the original posting last night before bed time.. wanted to see if a location had been mentioned.  I am so very happy they sent this to Putnum, and going to check it out..  I have a website, that I use to look up archived data..  Thought maybe the Monkeys might find use for it.. 

http://web.archive.org/collections/web/advanced.html  

Always good to have one more place to look, when your  digging through the web..

[starcat29]

i am just hoping that it is true i pray.It would be wonderful if she was alive.All i ever do is think about what if she is alive our they taking care of her giving her the love she is missing out on with her family or are they torching her by making her watch her parents on tv and beating her there is so much running threw my mind  i want her alive so bad but i want her to be ok  when she gets home i just can't imaging what her life will be when she gets home.Lets just pray and hope all is good with her and soon she will be home with family

[islandmonkey]

^^^^^^Again...I am by no means an expert on employment/unemployment cases...just throwing it out there to see what you all thought about it....I am sure that there is someone on here who is actively involved in this sortof thing who could give us some good advice on the matter....

I'm no expert either but with the economy the way it is and state budgets the way they are, the labor board may go in favor of the employer.  These are hard times you know??..

He most likely is not eligible for FMLA if he has worked there for less than one year. Most large companies have human resource specialist who make sure they are within the law when they fire an employee.

I tink PDM is a large enough company that it consulted with atty's to cover their @ss due to the fact they most likely expected him to become litigous (I predicted this awhile back) due to his entitlement attitude, but if you read the links at PDM, looks like they are covered:




I understand that this application does not, by itself, create a contract of employment. I understand and agree that, if hired, my employment is for no definite period of time, and may be terminated at any time with or without cause.   I understand that only the President of PDM Bridge LLC is authorized to change any of the terms of employment and that any changes must be specific and in writing.


https://www.siteprosecure.com/com/pdmbridge/www/index.cfm?event=terms


Looks like his Jose Baez type atty's would have been in touch with PDM when they entered the picture to ensure good lines of communication regarding his employment, especially when you consider that almost 1 in 12 are unemployed due to our economic circumstance we find our country in!

[Jerseygirl345]

Edit:  not appropriate for a missing little girls forum.  We don't know who is guilty.

I've been gone awhile and I come back to this.  WTH???????

Back out of here.  This site is not what I thought it was or should I say what I thought it used to be.  There was a "time" when no one made fun of a missing child's family.  Sad and I was so wrong.  My bad.

BYE and no I won't let the door hit me.  I'm just sad about Haleigh and will continue to do what I can.  I wish you all Peace.

Who edit the pic? Where did the pic show guilt? There are alot of Posting that say they are guilty Geeze.. There were pics like that in the Caylee forum.. Sometimes you need a laugh in sad situations.. Well I gonna sit back for awhile now and not post..

[momoftwins]

Edit:  not appropriate for a missing little girls forum.  We don't know who is guilty.

I've been gone awhile and I come back to this.  WTH???????

Back out of here.  This site is not what I thought it was or should I say what I thought it used to be.  There was a "time" when no one made fun of a missing child's family.  Sad and I was so wrong.  My bad.

BYE and no I won't let the door hit me.  I'm just sad about Haleigh and will continue to do what I can.  I wish you all Peace.

Who edit the pic? Where did the pic show guilt? There are alot of Posting that say they are guilty Geeze.. There were pics like that in the Caylee forum.. Sometimes you need a laugh in sad situations.. Well I gonna sit back for awhile now and not post..

If they're talking about the Clampet pic.  I found it to be very funny.  I needed a good laugh.  All I can say is that the person has no sense of humor imo.  JG I think you did a wonderful job!! Don't listen to the negative ones out there.  Thanks again for the laugh.  You also Grama!!  Your edit on there was funny.

[GramaMonkey]

Edit:  not appropriate for a missing little girls forum.  We don't know who is guilty.

I've been gone awhile and I come back to this.  WTH???????

Back out of here.  This site is not what I thought it was or should I say what I thought it used to be.  There was a "time" when no one made fun of a missing child's family.  Sad and I was so wrong.  My bad.

BYE and no I won't let the door hit me.  I'm just sad about Haleigh and will continue to do what I can.  I wish you all Peace.

Who edit the pic? Where did the pic show guilt? There are alot of Posting that say they are guilty Geeze.. There were pics like that in the Caylee forum.. Sometimes you need a laugh in sad situations.. Well I gonna sit back for awhile now and not post..

I added the little caption, underneath the dog....meaning the dog said that.  It was pulled, end of it. 

[klaasend]

Edit:  not appropriate for a missing little girls forum.  We don't know who is guilty.

I've been gone awhile and I come back to this.  WTH???????

Back out of here.  This site is not what I thought it was or should I say what I thought it used to be.  There was a "time" when no one made fun of a missing child's family.  Sad and I was so wrong.  My bad.

BYE and no I won't let the door hit me.  I'm just sad about Haleigh and will continue to do what I can.  I wish you all Peace.

Who edit the pic? Where did the pic show guilt? There are alot of Posting that say they are guilty Geeze.. There were pics like that in the Caylee forum.. Sometimes you need a laugh in sad situations.. Well I gonna sit back for awhile now and not post..

I knew this would cause issues.  The forums have been very busy and I haven't been able to always catch when I can.  There is a fineline between funny and inappropriate.  Sometimes it's too fine.  I have edited out MANY in the Caylee forum whenever I see them.  I will edit out here too whenever I see them.  Sorry if that bothers you but I thought finding Haleigh is what is really important.

[danabar]

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh

Brandi, thank you for sharing.  Another beautiful piece of your work.  You are so talented and these pictures always remind us of why we are here.

Just Beautiful!!

[klaasend]

This is old (April 4) so I'm sure it's already been posted:

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/04/04/news/news02.txt

Residents worry about missing child, hope for the best
By Kristin Chambers
Published: Saturday, April 4, 2009 1:05 AM EDT

SATSUMA - Despite continuing support and concern for missing 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings, some members of the Satsuma community are not afraid to ask the hard questions.

"Where are the priorities?" Jacob Brey, pastor of Hope Lutheran Church said recently. "It seems like the attentions been diverted off Haleigh. I think some people in our congregation are just not pleased with some of the antics of the individuals."

As a retired police officer of 28 years, Brey, who lives in River Villas, said Haleigh's disappearance has made people "more protective than ever."

"The main thing I've seen is concern for the child, but it makes you think," Brey said. "It takes away the freedom. It takes away the fact that you can't just let your child go a couple blocks down and play ball without feeling like you have to have them in eyesight at all times."

Other locals feel as if the situation has brought the community together.

"I feel like it has humbled Palatka, because nothing like this has ever happened," Stacy Kriser, owner of Noah's Ark Consignment Store, said. "We hear about it in other cities, but when it happens in our own county it makes us think and brings us back down to earth."

Kriser said that many people who come in the store ask her about it.

"It definitely gets people talking," Kriser said.

When asked what people were talking about, Kriser responded, "Nothing I can repeat."

Paul White, 79, is a Putnam County native retired from Georgia-Pacific. He said the small town has received negative popularity since the incident began.

"I don't mind the news people, I mean everybody's got to do their job," White said, "But there has been a big influx of people."

White said the town's positive reputation changed after authorities began releasing the number of sexual offenders who live in the area.

"Before, it seemed you had nothing but wholesome people," White said. "It makes you wonder. Of course there are still many more good people than bad people."

He can relate to what Haleigh's family is experiencing, due to losing his own granddaughter in a fatal car accident years ago.

"I think law enforcement has done everything they can possibly do," White said. "It's just one of those terrible things."

Kathie Kellie, a local foster mom, said the community has been very generous despite the family's polarity, which has twisted Haleigh's case in separate directions.

"Maybe they weren't the parents of the year, but the community has overlooked that, and has extended out their hand in every which way," Kellie said. "There's so many questions about the family, and our community has said, 'Yeah, maybe I don't agree with that, but Haleigh needs us.'"

Haleigh Cummings was reported missing on Feb. 10 at 3:27 a.m. from her Satsuma home and no trace of her has been found.

An Amber Alert remains active, with a reward posted at $35,767.

To report tips regarding Haleigh, call Crime Stoppers at (888) 277-8477.

kchambers@palatkdadailynews.com

[TxLady2]

In that thing from Ron's attorney it says he didn't threaten anyone.
I guess he did.
Where I work and I am sure most places do this, there is something called job abandonment. They have to hear from you. If I am sick, I have to call in BEFORE my start time that day. If I am going on leave, it has to be approved before. If there is an accident and in a coma, we're good. But, and believe me, this has happened, a doctor's certificate is mandatory. 
Ron should have called his employer and worked out a return to work plan. Else, they probably have every right to let him go.
PDM is a big company, they must have all their policy written down.
I realize that Ron can claim force majeure but he could speak and use the phone.   

I agree, Katgram... there is no valid excuse not to at least call them, and let them know something. Abandonment means just that... up and leave or not return, and no reason given. Some jobs might accept a two months leave for something like this, but not without some communication during that time. It sounds like he just didn't go back, never called them to let them know anything. Or maybe he or someone (his mom?) called them that first day, but he never followed up afterwards. I can see a company holding a job open for a couple weeks... maybe longer since she was not found. But after a month or two, they might have presumed he just wasn't coming back, didn't care about a job. They are not obligated to hold the job indefinitely.
I assume that these lawyers prefer to accept Ron's word for what happened, rather than the company. They are insinuating that Ron was told he could return to work that Monday, and then changed their minds upon him showing up. I doubt that is the way it happened at all. I am guessing that he just figured he could waltz in, punch the clock and his job was still waiting. I bet he never called them at all, to find out if he still had a job. Or whoever he talked to did not know he was terminated. Whatever... he should have checked in with them occasionally during these two months... he didn't.
He can try to sue them, but I don't know if it will get anywhere. Most big companies have policies in place to prevent former employees from collecting on lawsuits. These idiotic lawyers might try it, but I think they are in over their heads with this one.
I don't know about FL, but in TX, he would not even be eligible for unemployment. If you are fired for a valid reason, forget it. Abandonment is a valid reason.

[Sieko]

Being so frustrated with the Cummings family, JG's pic made me chuckle. 

I can understand why it was removed though, not knowing who the guilty party is.  If the Cummings family turns out to be innocent and lost a Daughter, that pic will still be floating around cyberland for years to come.

Well, my man took the day off today and I'm sitting here on the puter.    Better go spend some time with him... 

[Sieko]

Another nice picture Brandi!  Little Haleigh looks beautiful in any colour.

[TxLady2]

Good evening Monkeys!!!!

I've been over on Sandra's thread for days and trying to catch up here.  I'm so far behind on Caylee's thread but from the bits and pieces I read over there it's pretty much the same old drama just waiting to go to trial.


I just wanted to say that from the beginning of Haleigh's disappearance I've felt that Ron and Misty know exactly what happened to the point of fabricating the whole thing.  OK I'm a newbie and I know what it means if you want to throw nanners, I'm ready.

But please hear me out as to why I feel this way.  Their stories never added up from the beginning as we all know too well.  Then one of the grandmas, I believe it was Sykes had some sort of feeling that Haleigh was in Georgia or Alabama.   Then there was the story of Misty's 3 day bender.  Ronald didn't seem very upset at all that Misty was with another guy.  Why????  IMHO they made up that story to so they could get granny to watch the kids the weekend that Misty was messed up.  In other words Ron could have called Granny and said hey can you watch the kids I need to find Misty.  Then Ronald, Misty and whoever have three days to plan this fake abduction.  IMO they probably haven't figured out how to bring her back into the picture.  They didn't plan that part because they didn't really know how it all would play out.  This could explain their lack of emotion over Haleigh if they are biding their time to figure out where to have her dropped off.  I really hope I am right for Haleigh's sake. Holding on to hope.

After watching the live feed of Sandra Cantu's Memorial Service today and watching her parents my heart was torn.  In comparison, IMHO I've never seen Ronald display any genuine emotion over Haleigh's disappearance.  To me it all seemed like an act.

Sorry these are my feelings and I do think Haleigh is alive somewhere.

BTW Grama that pic of Cummings was a hoot!!! LOL

IIRC, it was Marie, Crystal's mom who had the feeling Haleigh was in Georgia or Alabama.

[TxLady2]

seems like all I do around here is catch up on threads! following 3 different threads gets impossible to stay caught up..!

first of all, Searching my thoughts are with you!

second, Ron could have taken the time to stop in at his employers to check in and just touch base with them...at least a phone call...but stopping  in would have been better...that being said, I think that he may end up getting some money out of the employer for firing him at a time like this if he decides to sue...at least he may get back pay from the time that he was fired or he may get his job back if he wanted it...I am no expert on this, but when I worked in HR at a business, you would be surprised at the excuses that people came up with why they didn't touch base with the company while they were out for one reason or another...and in many cases, they won! especially if the company did not give them reasonable reasons of why they were being terminated....Was Ron sent anything by mail saying that he would be terminated if he did not contact them or return to work by a certain date? I think that there will be some sympathy towards Ron from the labor board since he is out of work for the circumstances of Haleigh being missing...jmo....like I said, I am no expert, but he could come out of this financially better off?  at the very least, he will be able to collect unemployment now I would guess...
Again, Ron should have contacted the employer...no excuse for not doing that...imo....will be interesting to see how this will all play out now...
just one more kink in this saga...what next?

And maybe that was the idea.... make them fire him and collect big bucks!!
I don't know how these things work, Cookie, thanks for the heads up, though.
I worked for a company about 20 years ago, and came down with a relapse of the flu, was in bed for 3 weeks. I called in sick every day, or had my husband to, when I couldn't talk. EVERY DAY!! Still... they called me towards the end of the second week, very nice, and asked me if I had any idea when I could return to work. I was still too weak, and I told them if they had to terminate me, go ahead, I would not protest it. They said, NO... they did not want to do that because I had been so good to show up every day and never took time off. I finally got able to come back to work and by phone they worked out a schedule for me to return. The supervisors and manager were extremely understanding, it was just a couple of co workers who put in a couple of jabs at me. Anyway, my point is... I did not leave them hanging, I called... I made sure they knew I cared about my job.
I hope that PDM has policies in place, has good lawyers and there will be no backlash from this. If Ron never contacted them during this two months, they had to assume he did not care about his job.

I bolded and made red the above statement. I think that just may be the case!

 

If they fired him for willful misconduct (which abandonment/no call/no show is)....he isn't illegible for unemployment. He can file but they will reject his claim.

I wasn't talking about collecting unemployment... more towards suing them for thousands of $$$, because of the termination. Unemployment only pays a percentage of what you made in a certain time period.... certainly not big bucks.

[MuffyBee]

Edit:  not appropriate for a missing little girls forum.  We don't know who is guilty.

I've been gone awhile and I come back to this.  WTH???????

Back out of here.  This site is not what I thought it was or should I say what I thought it used to be.  There was a "time" when no one made fun of a missing child's family.  Sad and I was so wrong.  My bad.

BYE and no I won't let the door hit me.  I'm just sad about Haleigh and will continue to do what I can.  I wish you all Peace.

Who edit the pic? Where did the pic show guilt? There are alot of Posting that say they are guilty Geeze.. There were pics like that in the Caylee forum.. Sometimes you need a laugh in sad situations.. Well I gonna sit back for awhile now and not post..

I knew this would cause issues.  The forums have been very busy and I haven't been able to always catch when I can.  There is a fineline between funny and inappropriate.  Sometimes it's too fine.  I have edited out MANY in the Caylee forum whenever I see them.  I will edit out here too whenever I see them.  Sorry if that bothers you but I thought finding Haleigh is what is really important.

[TxLady2]

snip Pink Angel: If they fired him for willful misconduct (which abandonment/no call/no show is)....he isn't illegible for unemployment. He can file but they will reject his claim.

but the mere fact that he has a daughter missing....don't you think that he will get some slack on that? he can say that he was searching, was too distraught etc...I am not saying that he will get anything out of this, but I think that he will probably have a really good case...there will always be some who have not followed this case who will be thinking that his company is heartless for firing him while his daughter is still missing blah blah blah...Mind you, I am not supportive of Ron at all on this job situation...just putting it out there that he may win this case against his employer if he pursues it...maybe not.....time will tell...

one time a guy at our work had not called, had not shown up to work for almost a week,..our risk manager went over to his house and banged on the door....no answer...he was fired for no call, no show...he took it to the unemployment office.. we fought against it....he got it...he told them that he was too sick to get out of bed to open the door....they believed him and he got unemployment! believe it or not!

It could be, Cookie.... but the company can probably fight it.... Ron's fingers were not broken, he could talk and walk... they will say he could have picked up the phone and called them at least. He was not sick, and if he was able to get married, and all the other stuff he did... which his co workers will testify to... he could have gone to work. He might be able to get unemployment with the missing daughter story... but if the company turns it down because the termination was valid,  the state can't do much about it. Maybe they have enough consideration not to fight the unemployment... but they won't let him win a lawsuit, I betcha. AND... if he does qualify for unemployment by some stroke of luck, he will still have to be active in looking for another job.

I was turned down for unemployment about 10 years ago, because we moved back here after living in another part of the state, due to my M.I.L. having terminal cancer... my husband also had a job waiting for him here. They said my reasons were not valid. When I tried to explain that I could not have stayed there while my husband and son moved back home, they still turned me down. Moving 500 miles from a job because of an in-law's illness is not a valid reason to leave a job. Not fair, but that's the way it goes.