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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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Quote from: klaasend on February 26, 2010, 03:09:42 PM
Quote from: jen3560 on February 26, 2010, 03:00:41 PM
Quote from: jen3560 on February 26, 2010, 02:47:17 PM
my deer friend sent me this.
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A
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Forgot the link. Sorry!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=310.0
I have un-redacted statements. Give me a bit and I'll see what I can find
Thank you!!!!! Will be interesting to see where his address is, in comparison to the surroundings of this house in the video.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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Quote from: klaasend on February 26, 2010, 03:01:38 PM
Quote from: EURobert on February 26, 2010, 02:59:08 PM
Quote from: jen3560 on February 26, 2010, 02:58:07 PM
Thanks Magnolia!
EURobert - yes, the balcony itself is spacious. I'm talking about the height of the railing.
Because if Natalee was standing upright on the floor of the balcony itself, how in the world could she have fallen over? That railing had to be at above waist height for her.
If they both were on the balcony (IF!!!) Joran pushed her!
IF .....she could have been trying to get away
My thoughts as well
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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Quote from: klaasend on February 26, 2010, 03:00:10 PM
Quote from: Kermit on February 26, 2010, 02:40:19 PM
Lorenzo's house? Could he be trying to implicate Lorenzo? We know
A
strid did sell her house.
klaas
- I'm so glad you posted these pix. As soon as I saw the first post with a pix of the "death house" (
EURobert
?) I thought OMG - Lorenzo? I remember we had photos from the drug raid on his house. If Lorenzo's is the house Joran is talking about, he's opened a huge can of worms!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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Quote from: klaasend on February 26, 2010, 03:09:42 PM
Quote from: jen3560 on February 26, 2010, 03:00:41 PM
Quote from: jen3560 on February 26, 2010, 02:47:17 PM
my deer friend sent me this.
A
ndre Montival
A
OKI Dos SANTOS,
Also known as "Dre", born at Sao Paolo in Brazil, on October 15, 1986, a student at (Mon Plaisier college) and living in
Palm Beach number XXX
on Aruba
Forgot the link. Sorry!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=310.0
I have un-redacted statements. Give me a bit and I'll see what I can find
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2006/09/02/natalee-holloway-investigation-dos-santos-june-20-2005-statements/
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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Quote from: EURobert on February 26, 2010, 03:09:56 PM
Quote from: Buckeye on February 26, 2010, 03:04:07 PM
EURobert
In anything you've seen, is there a distinction made between an interview and the results of the lie detector? Are the
actual
lie detector questions and answers posted anywhere?
You mean the tests from this latest interview? I heard it mentioned somewhere tonight but don't know where... But from what I understood there was a polygraph test. I guess we'll see those answers coming sunday.
Thanks. I am interested in the actual polygraph questions and answers.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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In respons to this interview the OM has done some investigations: according to them the falling-of-balcony story cannot be right. The guy who lives in the house has an alibi for that evening..................... From HIS MOTHER (for what it's worth)
The showhost says: theoreticly this timeline
CAN
make sense.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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Suspect A. was turning 20? Or someone else?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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Quote from: carpe noctem on February 26, 2010, 03:17:32 PM
Suspect A. was turning 20? Or someone else?
He already was 20 at that time. Yes - Supect "A".
That first translation I had stating it was his birthday appears to be incorrect, compared to other translations.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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Quote from: msmarple on February 26, 2010, 03:12:36 PM
Quote from: klaasend on February 26, 2010, 03:00:10 PM
Quote from: Kermit on February 26, 2010, 02:40:19 PM
Lorenzo's house? Could he be trying to implicate Lorenzo? We know
A
strid did sell her house.
klaas
- I'm so glad you posted these pix. As soon as I saw the first post with a pix of the "death house" (
EURobert
?) I thought OMG - Lorenzo? I remember we had photos from the drug raid on his house. If Lorenzo's is the house Joran is talking about, he's opened a huge can of worms!
OH NO...Not Barbed-wire Lorenzo...With the ferocious dogs...
If that is the case...this story is surely not going to be investigated...
The police are too afraid and unable to gain access to him (a citizen) or his property...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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February 26, 2010, 03:21:20 PM »
http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_69240.php
Google translation:
ARUBA
"Natalee fell off balcony '
February 26, 2010, 12:51 (GMT -04:00)
ORANGE CITY - After drinking whiskey and snorting cocaine from a balcony is Natalee Holloway case. She was killed instantly. Joran van der Sloot has her body afterwards with a friend in a "swamp" dumped.
This is at least the most recent version of the story of one suspect van der Sloot about the disappearance of Holloway. The confession is this Sunday by the Dutch television channel RTL 5 broadcast, but there are now more details are known.
De Telegraaf writes that Van der Sloot in his new and very emotional confession in detail told about his part in the death of the American teenager. Former Commissioner of Police Gerald Dompig, who was in charge of the investigation into the disappearance, reacts in De Telegraaf that the reading of the boy "certainly fits the findings of the first investigation. According Dompig, Van der Sloot by violent emotions are more convincing than in his first television involuntary confession in a car during informant Patrick van der Eem. Former agent Dompig finds that the Prosecution this second confession is quickly dismissed as a fabrication. He believes that the confession to serious investigation. "The reading fits into the timeline." The fact that Van der Sloot very specific in his confession, Dompig is significant. In the confession he calls the exact street address where the teenager died, the name of the accomplice and he describes the car that her body was transported.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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Reply #270 on:
February 26, 2010, 03:21:36 PM »
Quote from: msmarple on February 26, 2010, 03:12:36 PM
Quote from: klaasend on February 26, 2010, 03:00:10 PM
Quote from: Kermit on February 26, 2010, 02:40:19 PM
Lorenzo's house? Could he be trying to implicate Lorenzo? We know
A
strid did sell her house.
klaas
- I'm so glad you posted these pix. As soon as I saw the first post with a pix of the "death house" (
EURobert
?) I thought OMG - Lorenzo? I remember we had photos from the drug raid on his house. If Lorenzo's is the house Joran is talking about, he's opened a huge can of worms!
Exactly my thoughts as well.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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Quote from: carpe noctem on February 26, 2010, 03:17:32 PM
Suspect A. was turning 20? Or someone else?
20
must be a popular number in Aruba.
20 times before...
20th birthday...
turning 20...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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This house is on a street with other houses that look very much like it all in a row and Joran gives the street address.
I wonder how he can name this person, this house, and not be sued by this friend A for slander?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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Quote from: Anna on February 26, 2010, 03:22:22 PM
This house is on a street with other houses that look very much like it all in a row and Joran gives the street address.
I wonder how he can name this person, this house, and not be sued by this friend A for slander?
I wonder if his friend A will shoot him for slander?
Will Joran be the next Arubacide we see in the newspaper?
Maybe ALL of his friends will start thinking long and hard about when it might be their turn to get thrown under this runaway train of Joran's - and have the polis rain down on them.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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Quote from: jen3560 on February 26, 2010, 03:25:07 PM
Quote from: Anna on February 26, 2010, 03:22:22 PM
This house is on a street with other houses that look very much like it all in a row and Joran gives the street address.
I wonder how he can name this person, this house, and not be sued by this friend A for slander?
I wonder if his friend A will shoot him for slander?
Will Joran be the next Arubacide we see in the newspaper?
Maybe ALL of his friends will start thinking long and hard about when it might be their turn to get thrown under this runaway train of Joran's - and have the polis rain down on them.
I think we need clarification (on Aruban law) by Arlene Schippers...Maybe an exclusive interview (if we are lucky)...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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Quote from: BUCKSHOT on February 26, 2010, 03:27:16 PM
Quote from: jen3560 on February 26, 2010, 03:25:07 PM
Quote from: Anna on February 26, 2010, 03:22:22 PM
This house is on a street with other houses that look very much like it all in a row and Joran gives the street address.
I wonder how he can name this person, this house, and not be sued by this friend A for slander?
I wonder if his friend A will shoot him for slander?
Will Joran be the next Arubacide we see in the newspaper?
Maybe ALL of his friends will start thinking long and hard about when it might be their turn to get thrown under this runaway train of Joran's - and have the polis rain down on them.
I think we need clarification (on Aruban law) by Arlene Schippers...Maybe an exclusive interview (if we are lucky)...
Oh Buckshot bite your tongue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If I never hear that woman screeching again it will be too soon!
And besides - we wouldn't understand their system anyway.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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Klaas, When you watch the Dutch vids, I think it helps if you DO NOT translate the page first. That seems to really throw it for a loop.
At least it sort of seemed to work better on the original page not the translated one.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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February 26, 2010, 03:35:02 PM »
Quote from: Anna on February 26, 2010, 03:33:36 PM
Klaas, When you watch the Dutch vids, I think it helps if you DO NOT translate the page first. That seems to really throw it for a loop.
At least it sort of seemed to work better on the original page not the translated one.
Anna- thank you for bringing those over.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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February 26, 2010, 03:35:29 PM »
Quote from: can on February 26, 2010, 03:21:36 PM
Quote from: msmarple on February 26, 2010, 03:12:36 PM
Quote from: klaasend on February 26, 2010, 03:00:10 PM
Quote from: Kermit on February 26, 2010, 02:40:19 PM
Lorenzo's house? Could he be trying to implicate Lorenzo? We know
A
strid did sell her house.
klaas
- I'm so glad you posted these pix. As soon as I saw the first post with a pix of the "death house" (
EURobert
?) I thought OMG - Lorenzo? I remember we had photos from the drug raid on his house. If Lorenzo's is the house Joran is talking about, he's opened a huge can of worms!
Exactly my thoughts as well.
In the clip they say this house is close to the beach and holliday inn hotel; they only had to cross a dried up marsh and a road.
Does that match with Lorenzo's house?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 -
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Quote from: jen3560 on February 26, 2010, 03:31:52 PM
Quote from: BUCKSHOT on February 26, 2010, 03:27:16 PM
Quote from: jen3560 on February 26, 2010, 03:25:07 PM
Quote from: Anna on February 26, 2010, 03:22:22 PM
This house is on a street with other houses that look very much like it all in a row and Joran gives the street address.
I wonder how he can name this person, this house, and not be sued by this friend A for slander?
I wonder if his friend A will shoot him for slander?
Will Joran be the next Arubacide we see in the newspaper?
Maybe ALL of his friends will start thinking long and hard about when it might be their turn to get thrown under this runaway train of Joran's - and have the polis rain down on them.
I think we need clarification (on Aruban law) by Arlene Schippers...Maybe an exclusive interview (if we are lucky)...
Oh Buckshot bite your tongue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If I never hear that woman screeching again it will be too soon!
And besides - we wouldn't understand their system anyway
.
The only people that understand it are the ones who change it on the fly (to their benefit)...
I would hate to be responsible for writing their national book of law.
As soon as publishing finishes, they probably have to start over from scratch..
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