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Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #828 1/28/10 - 2/14/10 (Read 1022148 times)
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Quote from: texasmom on February 09, 2010, 03:24:44 PM
To put him in a leadership position for one second is WRONG, and those that did it; KNOW IT!
I guess that pretty much tells us how the investigation went; and we'll probably never hear another word about it.
JMO
"Culture" (aka tourist attractions) always seems to trump over law and order on that skraggy rock. Imagine that
AVOID ARUBA AS IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT...IT DOES!!!
Justice for Natalee Holloway
Peace for her family and loved ones
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Don't miss Dana Pretzer tonight at 9pm ET (in about 9 minutes)!
Click on the link below
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Inquiring minds want to know what took so long for Rudy Croes to call for an investigation into Jan van der Straaten's compromising of the Natalee Holloway investigation. The conflict of interest in regards to the relationship with Paulus van der Sloot was known by Croes since the getgo. The communications during those first ten days between the lead investigator and the father of the main person of interest was also known.
Could it be that it is all part of the Aruban plan ... an Aruban plan that will allow a now retired Jan van der Straaten to be the sacrificial lamb ... a now retired Jan van der Straaten to take the fall for an incompetent ... not corrupt investigation ... in an attempt to appease the parents of Natalee Holloway.
Nevertheless ... Rudy Croes should be charged with obstructing the Natalee Holloway investigation. Think about it. Croes waited 3 1/2 years to take action. In the meantime he was upholding the investigation.
Janet
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SEPTEMBER, 2005
Amigoe, Friday 30 September 2005
According to Justice-minister Rudy Croes (MEP), there is not much that can be done against Twitty’s attitude. He says that declaring her as persona non grata is no option. The American media would blow that up and it can fire back at us.
She is back in all sorts of programs where she calls upon Americans to avoid Aruba as vacation destination.
“I can’t understand her attitude. We did everything possible to find her daughter”, said Croes.
He hopes of course that one day the teenager will show up, but he said that badmouthing would definitely not contribute to that.
Many Aruban people are very angry with Twitty and are afraid that her constant appeals against Aruba would have a negative effect on the tourism. Even though this does not reflect in the figures, the government does keep a finger on the pulse. Croes does not consider taking measures against Twitty yet, but does not rule out the possibility TO SHUT HER UP IN THE FUTURE. The Dutch government was asked to diplomatically support Aruba in this matter.
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1694
DECEMBER, 2008
Dutch News - December 4, 2008
Van der Sloot father hindered Natalee probe’
Dutchman Jan van der Straten, who the Caribbean island of Aruba when US teenager Natalee Holloway disappeared, seriously hindered the investigation in the first few days, Aruban justice minister Rudy Croes is quoted as saying by news agency ANP.
ANP says Croes claims Van der Straten was slow to take action in order to help his friend Paul van der Sloot protect his son Joran, who was suspected of being involved in the disappearance. Such rumours have circulated on the island for some time, ANP says.
According to ANP, Croes made the statement following criticism of the Aruban police force made by Van der Straten earlier this week.
Questioning
Croes said that Joran and two other suspects were only taken in for questioning 10 days after Holloway went missing ‘when the first days are crucial in a disappearance’. And he claims he heard Van der Straten say ‘I cannot do that to my friend Paul’.
Croes also claims there were a lot of telephone conversations between Van der Sloot senior and Van der Straten and that a ‘second class’ police team was put on the investigation. ‘It was the team used during the carnival celebrations,’ ANP reports him as saying.
In addition, Croes accuses the Dutch government of failing to provide any moral support to Aruba. He says the Aruban authorities were pressurised to present Joran van der Sloot as an Aruban, not a Dutch national.
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2008/12/van_der_sloots_father_hindered.php
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Klaas ... other than the words ... "We're not in Kansas anymore" ... I have never embraced a Judy Garland quote. This one is a keeper. Thanks.
Janet
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on February 09, 2010, 09:40:16 PM
Klaas ... other than the words ... "We're not in Kansas anymore" ... I have never embraced a Judy Garland quote. This one is a keeper. Thanks.
Janet
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"Always be a first-rate version of yourself, instead of a second-rate version of somebody else." - Judy Garland
Yes, I agree. I brought that one out around the time of Dolce and her farce.
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Translated (well, sort of):
BROM SNOR CULTURE AS POPE.
Basically I want best good will towards the present government AVP. But Mike Eman must of course not suddenly go crazy antics tricks by former Commissioner
Jan van der Straten
the new culture of Aruba to Pope. I know there a lot wrong with the "Departemento di Cultura. But what does John of Culture,
other than his wife paints
. Nothing I thought so. And our constable quite a nice man adds nothing to his skill. Why our ex-policeman than for such an important post at a lot of money to hire? While it is generally known that John also possible - as
family friend of the van der Sloots
- an
obscure role played during the first ten days after the disappearance of Natalee Holloway
and for convenience only as fast had arrested two black men who -- and that was easy to go - nothing to do with the case had.
Meanwhile, ten days passed and important - as
Joran and his father something to do with their demise would have
- there was space created all the "stuff" to clean. The
role of Jan would be investigated, I read over one years ago. But nothing came of it
and now "Brom Mustache", only after years Bonaire, spread on a bed right in the AVP. If culture is pope.
This remarkable region of the current government is the
"Aruban the world of fine arts' seriously blighted
and unfortunately while I am still - but anything less - sympathetic towards the current government continue drawing, I see the future with fear and shaking response.
http://renevannie.com/inhoud/kritisch/_kritisch.html
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And the wheels on the bus go round and round.......Nothing,absolutely nothing will change in Aruba..
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on February 07, 2010, 04:49:27 PM
LORENZO VAN RIJN
Rumor or Truth?
Dana Pretzer Show -
June 18, 2006
Jossy Mansur:
I do know what our reporters have been able to find, Lorenzo is a half brother of Joran
. He has a boat. He lives in a secluded section of the island, very close to Joran. I don't know if he was questioned, but people mention his name quite often in regard to this case.
http://sundaynightsatellite.libsyn.com/index.php?post_year=2006&post_month=06&post_day=18
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« Reply #566 on: February 07, 2008, 05:18:36 PM
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http://amigoe.com/english/
Last Update: Wednesday,
February 06, 2008
Joran and OM talk tomorrow in the Netherlands
According to the local radio station Cool FM and a journalist of the Dutch current affairs column Network[, a half brother of Joran, a Lorenzo van R., does fit the profile
. He does have a boat and his name has already appeared earlier in the Holloway-file. Peter R. de Vries has confirmed having heard of Lorenzo van R.s name, but that he didnt want to use him for his programme. The Dutch programme Nova and other media have also mentioned other names, especially names of boys that often hang about the surfing circuit near the Fishermans Hut next to the Marriott. ...
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2578.msg343877;topicseen#msg343877
Corruption in Paradise - Dave Holloway
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It was a flowchart with all of the suspects and interested parties on it. He (Art Wood) noticed that one person who we thought was a suspect, Lorenzo van Rijn, rumoured to be Jorans half brother, was not on it. We had been told that he might have had some connection to Natalees disappearance. He is supposedly known on the island by the nickname Xtacy. Art asked him (Dennis Jacobs) where Lorenzo was, and Jacobs said that Lorenzo had nothing to do with Natalees case, so he doesnt have to be on the flow chart. We left, and Art commented on Jacobs reaction. There is talk in Aruba that Lorenzo is a known drug dealer who lives in a compound on the island with a remote-controlled sliding gate, television monitors, and razor wire all around the top of the fence. Apparently, you cannot get into that place. It looks like a prison camp.
Since Lorenzo is suppose to be related to Joran
, if the boys got drugs to give Natalee, they may have gotten them from him.
And Jossy subsequently said in an interview with Dana, not once not twice but some three times, that this is all based on RUMOR only.
Beth does not mention Lorenzo van Rijn once in her book. She does, however, even mention Vader von Loon, etc.
Lorenzo is not related to Joran and was born in the Netherlands years before his parents even knew the van der Sloots.
I remember giving you a link to the interview Dana did where Jossy admits this is all rumor, Janet. At the time you admitted it was only rumor. There is no transcript of that interview but feel free to email Dana and ask him what Jossy said as I am sure he will recall since he went to such efforts to make it crystal clear.
Red herring thrown out by Scubajap and Julia as was von Loon.
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Van der Stratten as minister of culture makes sense when you consider the hideous stuff that passes for art there.
Case in point, that hideous thing he painted with the three eyeballs!
Same for all that stuff Anita vd Sloot calls art.
He's actually a nice fit for the title when one considers what they consider art.
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Yes, the whole Southland is thrilled with the Saints' victory.
Who Dat nation is in party mode. May last until Mardi Gras, too, lol.
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on February 09, 2010, 11:52:23 PM
And the wheels on the bus go round and round.......Nothing,absolutely nothing will change in Aruba..
Or shall i say TRIKE...
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Hi, Sharon!
I'm off to watch the re-run of the new episode of Burn Notice, lol. Very nice photography of Miami.
Niters, All "good" monkeys!
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http://nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/
2007_03_01
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Minister of Justice Rudy Croes reported many suspicious telephone calls between Jan Van der Straten and Paulus Van Der Sloot
in the very early stages of the investigation.
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http://www.korps-politie-suriname.com/nieuws/nieuwsbronnen%20internationaal/archief%20nieuwsbronnen%20internationaal/2005/2005-09-nieuwsbronnen-internationaal/2005-09-nieuwsbronnen%20internationaal.htm
September 16, 2005
"Enormous pressure on government and police OM '
ORANGE CITY - Former police commissioner Jan van der Straten, has strongly criticized the "unprecedented pressure" from the Aruban government to present the Public Prosecutor (OM) and the police. He did this during a meeting of the European-Dutch population on the island, organized by opposition parties AVP, Club in Havana earlier this week. Sources within the OM confirm the existence of this situation.
Van der Straten was invited by the AVP as special speaker.
The former commissioner took the opportunity to comment on the heavy pressure of the Oduber government ended the reign of OM and the police exercised. He said: "I can tell you that not only the device under unprecedented pressure, including individuals who experience pressure and literally get to make threats and dismissal. It is not shrunk to fall to the level of the sewer ".
Van der Street gave a concrete example of harassment of himself: "It's a bit like the Prime Minister instructed to assets of Van der Street to questions and then he makes comments in public?" The former commissioner wanted not further elaborate on what he called "grossly examples where people's privacy was violated and a respectable state in which people long for their actions and expressions would be put behind bars".
According to Van der Straten Oduber's government is no longer Beschoor long life: "A Prime Minister who has time for such things, loses his people. Short term thinking, short term actions, are not in the interest of the people and certainly not contribute to increasing the integrity. Oduber gets an absolute majority and then it disappears sure. Those are not my words, but his own words ".
At the end of his speech, Van der Straten again strongly criticized the security of the government: "You increase the safety on Aruba by providing weapons to anyone. You increase security by not rifle to set up an international character.
You does not improve security by detecting illegal methods to let go, while long overdue should not ingrijpen.U increases security by the police to appoint people who are not sufficiently screened. You increase security by not continuing the authority of the Leadership Corps to undermine all kinds of memos called advisers. You increase security by not policemen "padvinders'te call constantly and confidence to undermine the Corps.
Safety is increased by one example in the field of openness, honesty, integrity, vision and decisiveness. "
AVP-leader Mike Eman Van der Straten thanked for putting forward his views: "It is important that a man like Jan van der Straten, so well versed in what's happening in our community, issues such distress. I think we should take this message very seriously and not other than to note that if not further. After September 23 is a radical change is necessary ".
(Amigoe)
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http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2008/02/13/monkeys-media-reminder-beth-holloway-peter-r-devries-on-dana-pretzer-show-on-scared-monkeys-radio/
Transcript
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6341.0
Re:
DANA PRETZER SHOW FEB 13, 2008 WITH BETH HOLLOWAY
, PETER R. DEVRIES, AND MORE!
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Dana:
If I was to mention the name Van der Straten.
Beth:
Well he’s corrupt to his core of existence.
Dana:
I think that just absolutely nails it. I was just sitting here just doodling with a pen and pad of paper just to see what you might write and we wrote just exactly the same thing.
Beth:
He just doesn’t even deserve any more words.
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12/10/2008 Awe Mainta Front Page
http://www.awemainta.com/noticia/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OIrRg4KsnI&NR=1
SBS6 HvN Dec 11 2008 - The State Secretary of Kingdom Relations Ank Bijleveld want a thorough investigation into the role of former police commissioner Jan van der Straten.
He would have severely hampered the investigation of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.
http://www.youtube.com/v/3OIrRg4KsnI&hl=en_US&fs=1&
http://www.solodipueblo.com/index.php?option=com_docman
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Sacrificial lamb?
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http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_64282.php
Google translation:
On Holloway: Research on former chief completed
October 26, 2009, 14:26 (GMT -04:00)
ORANGE CITY - The judicial investigation into the actions and integrity of chief Jan van der Straten is completed. "The dot the i have yet to be put," said Angela Ann, spokesman of the Public Ministry.
Angela reports that Attorney-General Rob Pietersz the research report has been read, but he as nothing to lose on the facts. "He asked for patience." The study was commissioned by Justice Minister Rudy Croes (MEP) performed at the insistence of the Dutch State Secretary of Kingdom Relations Ank Bijleveld-Schouten (CDA). Croes had in fact repeatedly expressed that he suspects the Street Van der investigation into the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway have deliberately prevented. The former police chief would have impeded the investigation to his friend Paul van der Sloot to help protect his son, the main suspect Joran van der Sloot. The former Police would der Sloot and two other suspects aware until ten days after the disappearance have taken up. The minister also said that Van der Straten then said: "I can not do my friend Paul." Jan van der Straten has since retired.
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RUMOR...it CAN'T BE TRUE...surely not!
http://www.solodipueblo.com/index.php?option=com_docman
TODAY....
http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_68579.php
Google translation:
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #828 1/28/10 -
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Quote from: Buckeye on February 09, 2010, 11:23:09 PM
Translated (well, sort of):
BROM SNOR CULTURE AS POPE.
Basically I want best good will towards the present government AVP. But Mike Eman must of course not suddenly go crazy antics tricks by former Commissioner
Jan van der Straten
the new culture of Aruba to Pope. I know there a lot wrong with the "Departemento di Cultura. But what does John of Culture,
other than his wife paints
. Nothing I thought so. And our constable quite a nice man adds nothing to his skill. Why our ex-policeman than for such an important post at a lot of money to hire? While it is generally known that John also possible - as
family friend of the van der Sloots
- an
obscure role played during the first ten days after the disappearance of Natalee Holloway
and for convenience only as fast had arrested two black men who -- and that was easy to go - nothing to do with the case had.
Meanwhile, ten days passed and important - as
Joran and his father something to do with their demise would have
- there was space created all the "stuff" to clean. The
role of Jan would be investigated, I read over one years ago. But nothing came of it
and now "Brom Mustache", only after years Bonaire, spread on a bed right in the AVP. If culture is pope.
This remarkable region of the current government is the
"Aruban the world of fine arts' seriously blighted
and unfortunately while I am still - but anything less - sympathetic towards the current government continue drawing, I see the future with fear and shaking response.
http://renevannie.com/inhoud/kritisch/_kritisch.html
Thanks Buckeye!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=2616&offId=0
6 hora happen | fecha: 09/02/2010 | Horario: 19:48
proyecto naval formation provided training program that will aid Achieve financiero of the netherlands
tuesday night fall or secretaria estado drs Ank Bijleveld together first minister of Aruba cu mr mike eman Owings to as one of conferencia prensa splika for all locual sra.bijlveld Owings Owings kico y haci to come to stay during concretisa they encuentro.
Wonder what her thoughts are on the new appointment in Aruba's Department of Culture.....
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Van Der Sloot+Van Der Straten+Eman+Bijleveld=Corruption from Aruba to The Netherlands...You will not get justice from Aruba to the Netherlands!!JMOO
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on February 10, 2010, 01:05:40 AM
Van Der Sloot+Van Der Straten+Eman+Bijleveld=Corruption from Aruba to The Netherlands...You will not get justice from Aruba to the Netherlands!!JMOO
He's the curator of the gallery of the Westin hotel.HOW SICK IS THAT!
Seems the OLD PIMPS are still at it.Words can not express my anger!
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I don't know if it was ever proven or not, but Brandon Pietersz's name came up in relation to this guy early in the case.
2/10/2010 Awe Mainta Page 8
http://www.awemainta.com/noticia/
Papiamentu translation:
raport of psychiater owing to place cu man cu owing to sende cas at candela not owing to wordo castiga
brandon pietersz
, that is wordo acusa cu day 27 july 2008, past owing to destrui window of cas by of throw stone y cu day 1 november 2008, intencionalmente past owing to throw gasoline in one cas y sende this at candela, not owing to wordo castiga.
this debi n’e raport of psychiater, cu is indica cu brandon pietersz is abide of problem mental y especialmente in the caso of sende cas at candela the not can wordo take responsible for his actonan.
brandon pietersz was interna in paaz y in corte past owing to tell huez cu now the is much good. huez owing to talk cu brandon pietersz enough largo caminda owing to talk on thing owing to sosode day 27 of july 2008 y also the incidente of 1 november 2008.
for of the combersacion can owing to conclui cu in both situation, brandon pietersz will was imagina cierto cos or as the was paranoid.
in corte past owing to tell huez cu can bien is possible cu his estado mental owing to place cause the problemanan here.
past owing to even tell cu now cu the is good, the not can imagina cu past owing to sende one cas at candela.
huez owing to read the raport of psychiater, that is show cu brandon pietersz not can wordo poni responsible although cu the know cu thing past owing to haci is bad. this because brandon is abide of paranoid.
t’asina cu brandon pietersz is bao tratamento y past owing to recupera satisfactoriamente. huez owing to tell cu psychiater owing to tell cu if brandon stop of using medicamento y follow smoke marihuana the chens is big cu the will follow abide of paranoid.
fiscal, teniendo cuenta cu the raport of psychiater owing to tell cu although cu owing to stay prove cu brandon pietersz is culpable, but the do not responsible. past owing to ask huez for not give brandon castigo.
huez owing to bay of acuerdo cu the sharp of view of fiscal, but owing to tell brandon pietersz p’e stay using the medicamento y stop of using marihuana.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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Joran describes Natalee's underwear with the dark blue embroidery and the flowers. He describes her public area. I know what he is referring to. She is shaven higher than usual for her bathing suit. Dear God. He has been with her. Joran continues and tells the men that he inserted a finger in her. Than another one. I am sickened by his sexually explicit and grapically detained account. Nauseated ...
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... we learned from the prosecutor that the statements from the two uniformed officers who were with us in the van der Sloot front yard that morning didn’t mention the sexual encounters descried by Joran between Natalee and him. No mention of his sexual contact with her as she was falling asleep and walking up. No mention of his description of her underwear and genitalia. So the judge never heard about all that. There ‘s no way a police officer could stand there that morning, hear what Joran was saying, and fail to include these details in a statement. No way. In my opinion this information must have been deleted for the officers.
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The day after our talk with Ms. Flanegan, I had to go to the police staton to turn in the statement that I had given to Dennis Jacobs. He had given me a copy to go over with my attorney, Vinda. But, after looking at it, I realized that it was only a page and a half long and had little to do with what we had actually discussed the most, the conversation that I had with Paulus van der Sloot at the prison ... I had spent a long time with Jacobs, and much of my interview was not in the statement.
When I went back to turn it in and discuss it with him, I was told that Jacobs was in with Jan van der Stratten.
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I commented to Jacobs about how short my statement was. He said that I could add anything I wanted to it. Also, I noticed that Eric Soemers's name was on it, but that detective was not even present during the interview. Now I wondered if Jacobs was making up everyone's statement and getting Eric to sign on to them. If that were the case, he could state anything he wanted, and it would look like an official statement made in front of a witness.
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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