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Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
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Topic: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 - 11/18/09 (Read 618083 times)
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TammyW
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 18, 2009, 09:03:18 AM »
I had to share this with all you monkeys. Here is a video of my 6 year old grandson singing Man in the Mirror at the Elizabeth Olten benefit last Sunday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTDst8aviBk
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November 18, 2009, 09:05:09 AM »
Quote from: TammyW on November 18, 2009, 09:03:18 AM
I had to share this with all you monkeys. Here is a video of my 6 year old grandson singing Man in the Mirror at the Elizabeth Olten benefit last Sunday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTDst8aviBk
awww, Tammy - thank you! He's a doll.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 18, 2009, 09:05:49 AM »
KMIZmichelle Long lines and bomb sniffing dogs outside Cole Co Courthouse ahead of adult certification hearing for Elizabeth Olten murder suspect. 42 minutes ago from web
KOMUnews RT @AlexRozier: The scene still quiet outside the Cole County Courthouse. Elizabeth Olten hearing to begin shortly. @KOMUNews ^JLR 2 minutes ago from CoTweet
http://twitter.com/#search?q=elizabeth%20olten
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 18, 2009, 09:06:49 AM »
Quote from: trimmonthelake on November 18, 2009, 07:28:39 AM
Quote from: jill on November 18, 2009, 07:16:04 AM
good morning, monkeys!
Finally, the day has arrived!
Praying for justice for Elizabeth.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 18, 2009, 09:11:33 AM »
Just talked with Christina Medina...teens in JC are handing out pink ribbons at the hearing for the alleged killer of Elizabeth Olten.
27 minutes ago from web
http://twitter.com/KCTV5Newsdesk
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Shinju
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Reply #1665 on:
November 18, 2009, 09:12:12 AM »
Quote from: Fanny Mae on November 17, 2009, 04:48:58 PM
Quote from: Shinju on November 17, 2009, 12:37:18 PM
Quote from: jill on November 17, 2009, 12:32:39 PM
Quote from: Shinju on November 17, 2009, 12:28:29 PM
I have been following this case since the day EO went missing, and have been lurking on the forums since she was found deceased. It truly is a sad outcome, and I hope the poi gets the book thrown at her.
Anyways, does anyone actually think this case will make it to jury if she is certified as an adult?
if a deal is made, at least she will be considered an adult and the info will be released.
If tried as a juvenile, we probably won't hear squat.
I have no idea why they aren't releasing more information. I'm pretty sure that in Missouri they can and sometimes will release the names/details of crime committed by juveniles. And if they can't does anyone know the statute of limitations on a civil suit, lol
I am fairly certain there is plenty of time for a civil suit. Personally, I hope it happens. JMO
I meant so I can sue for them putting my name in the paper when I was middle school lol.
Personally I don't think there should be a civil suit. The family of AB are victims too. IMO
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jill
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 18, 2009, 09:15:39 AM »
Quote from: Shinju on November 18, 2009, 09:12:12 AM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on November 17, 2009, 04:48:58 PM
Quote from: Shinju on November 17, 2009, 12:37:18 PM
Quote from: jill on November 17, 2009, 12:32:39 PM
Quote from: Shinju on November 17, 2009, 12:28:29 PM
I have been following this case since the day EO went missing, and have been lurking on the forums since she was found deceased. It truly is a sad outcome, and I hope the poi gets the book thrown at her.
Anyways, does anyone actually think this case will make it to jury if she is certified as an adult?
if a deal is made, at least she will be considered an adult and the info will be released.
If tried as a juvenile, we probably won't hear squat.
I have no idea why they aren't releasing more information. I'm pretty sure that in Missouri they can and sometimes will release the names/details of crime committed by juveniles. And if they can't does anyone know the statute of limitations on a civil suit, lol
I am fairly certain there is plenty of time for a civil suit. Personally, I hope it happens. JMO
I meant so I can sue for them putting my name in the paper when I was middle school lol.
Personally I don't think there should be a civil suit. The family of AB are victims too. IMO
we'll see.
I've read reports from locals that Alyssa's family helped cover up her crime.
Hopefully we'll have facts soon instead of rumors and cover-up.
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Jan_in_Tx
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 18, 2009, 09:19:09 AM »
Oh how I wish this were televised live today, I can't take the suspense! Please Lord, let AB be tried as an adult! Elizabeth needs justice!!
Thanks for the twitter acct's I'll be following closely!
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 18, 2009, 09:19:34 AM »
Quote from: jill on November 18, 2009, 08:38:45 AM
strangely, the Westboro Baptist peeps protested yesterday outside JCHS - and they are still in JC today.
http://www
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I wondered where these creeps were during all the funerals for the Ft Hood soldiers.
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Jesus loves the little children, all the children in the world.
Red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight. Jesus loves the little children of the world.
Words: C. Herbert Woolston (1856-1927) Music: George F. Root (1820-1895)
Shinju
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Reply #1669 on:
November 18, 2009, 09:20:32 AM »
Quote from: jill on November 18, 2009, 09:15:39 AM
Quote from: Shinju on November 18, 2009, 09:12:12 AM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on November 17, 2009, 04:48:58 PM
Quote from: Shinju on November 17, 2009, 12:37:18 PM
Quote from: jill on November 17, 2009, 12:32:39 PM
Quote from: Shinju on November 17, 2009, 12:28:29 PM
I have been following this case since the day EO went missing, and have been lurking on the forums since she was found deceased. It truly is a sad outcome, and I hope the poi gets the book thrown at her.
Anyways, does anyone actually think this case will make it to jury if she is certified as an adult?
if a deal is made, at least she will be considered an adult and the info will be released.
If tried as a juvenile, we probably won't hear squat.
I have no idea why they aren't releasing more information. I'm pretty sure that in Missouri they can and sometimes will release the names/details of crime committed by juveniles. And if they can't does anyone know the statute of limitations on a civil suit, lol
I am fairly certain there is plenty of time for a civil suit. Personally, I hope it happens. JMO
I meant so I can sue for them putting my name in the paper when I was middle school lol.
Personally I don't think there should be a civil suit. The family of AB are victims too. IMO
we'll see.
I've read reports from locals that Alyssa's family helped cover up her crime.
Hopefully we'll have facts soon instead of rumors and cover-up.
I've heard that too. But if she had help that person would be in custody.
I've also heard that their family was more than helpful with LE and were not allowed to participate in the search.
I've heard that bf killed EO and AB covered for him.
Based on what I heard about the family before this happened I'd personally think that the bolded theory is true.
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Shinju
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Reply #1670 on:
November 18, 2009, 09:21:30 AM »
Quote from: Shinju on November 18, 2009, 09:20:32 AM
Quote from: jill on November 18, 2009, 09:15:39 AM
Quote from: Shinju on November 18, 2009, 09:12:12 AM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on November 17, 2009, 04:48:58 PM
Quote from: Shinju on November 17, 2009, 12:37:18 PM
Quote from: jill on November 17, 2009, 12:32:39 PM
Quote from: Shinju on November 17, 2009, 12:28:29 PM
I have been following this case since the day EO went missing, and have been lurking on the forums since she was found deceased. It truly is a sad outcome, and I hope the poi gets the book thrown at her.
Anyways, does anyone actually think this case will make it to jury if she is certified as an adult?
if a deal is made, at least she will be considered an adult and the info will be released.
If tried as a juvenile, we probably won't hear squat.
I have no idea why they aren't releasing more information. I'm pretty sure that in Missouri they can and sometimes will release the names/details of crime committed by juveniles. And if they can't does anyone know the statute of limitations on a civil suit, lol
I am fairly certain there is plenty of time for a civil suit. Personally, I hope it happens. JMO
I meant so I can sue for them putting my name in the paper when I was middle school lol.
Personally I don't think there should be a civil suit. The family of AB are victims too. IMO
we'll see.
I've read reports from locals that Alyssa's family helped cover up her crime.
Hopefully we'll have facts soon instead of rumors and cover-up.
I've heard that too. But if she had help that person would be in custody.
I've also heard that their family was more than helpful with LE and were not allowed to participate in the search.
I've heard that bf killed EO and AB covered for him.
Based on what I heard about the family before this happened I'd personally think that the bolded theory is true.
But that is just my opinion and every is entitled to think differently if they wish.
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Fanny Mae
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Reply #1671 on:
November 18, 2009, 09:21:44 AM »
Quote from: jill on November 18, 2009, 09:15:39 AM
Quote from: Shinju on November 18, 2009, 09:12:12 AM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on November 17, 2009, 04:48:58 PM
Quote from: Shinju on November 17, 2009, 12:37:18 PM
Quote from: jill on November 17, 2009, 12:32:39 PM
Quote from: Shinju on November 17, 2009, 12:28:29 PM
I have been following this case since the day EO went missing, and have been lurking on the forums since she was found deceased. It truly is a sad outcome, and I hope the poi gets the book thrown at her.
Anyways, does anyone actually think this case will make it to jury if she is certified as an adult?
if a deal is made, at least she will be considered an adult and the info will be released.
If tried as a juvenile, we probably won't hear squat.
I have no idea why they aren't releasing more information. I'm pretty sure that in Missouri they can and sometimes will release the names/details of crime committed by juveniles. And if they can't does anyone know the statute of limitations on a civil suit, lol
I am fairly certain there is plenty of time for a civil suit. Personally, I hope it happens. JMO
I meant so I can sue for them putting my name in the paper when I was middle school lol.
Personally I don't think there should be a civil suit. The family of AB are victims too. IMO
we'll see.
I've read reports from locals that Alyssa's family helped cover up her crime.
Hopefully we'll have facts soon instead of rumors and cover-up.
Yes, there can also be a civil suit, even though there is or is not a criminal trial. I think we have not been able to get as much info on the family because they were enabling Alyssa. JMO
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Red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight. Jesus loves the little children of the world.
Words: C. Herbert Woolston (1856-1927) Music: George F. Root (1820-1895)
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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November 18, 2009, 09:23:22 AM »
Quote from: Shinju on November 18, 2009, 09:21:30 AM
Quote from: Shinju on November 18, 2009, 09:20:32 AM
Quote from: jill on November 18, 2009, 09:15:39 AM
Quote from: Shinju on November 18, 2009, 09:12:12 AM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on November 17, 2009, 04:48:58 PM
Quote from: Shinju on November 17, 2009, 12:37:18 PM
Quote from: jill on November 17, 2009, 12:32:39 PM
Quote from: Shinju on November 17, 2009, 12:28:29 PM
I have been following this case since the day EO went missing, and have been lurking on the forums since she was found deceased. It truly is a sad outcome, and I hope the poi gets the book thrown at her.
Anyways, does anyone actually think this case will make it to jury if she is certified as an adult?
if a deal is made, at least she will be considered an adult and the info will be released.
If tried as a juvenile, we probably won't hear squat.
I have no idea why they aren't releasing more information. I'm pretty sure that in Missouri they can and sometimes will release the names/details of crime committed by juveniles. And if they can't does anyone know the statute of limitations on a civil suit, lol
I am fairly certain there is plenty of time for a civil suit. Personally, I hope it happens. JMO
I meant so I can sue for them putting my name in the paper when I was middle school lol.
Personally I don't think there should be a civil suit. The family of AB are victims too. IMO
we'll see.
I've read reports from locals that Alyssa's family helped cover up her crime.
Hopefully we'll have facts soon instead of rumors and cover-up.
I've heard that too. But if she had help that person would be in custody.
I've also heard that their family was more than helpful with LE and were not allowed to participate in the search.
I've heard that bf killed EO and AB covered for him.
Based on what I heard about the family before this happened I'd personally think that the bolded theory is true.
But that is just my opinion and every is entitled to think differently if they wish.
I think you have made your reason for being here perfectly clear and that is my opinion to which I am entitled too. JMO
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Red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight. Jesus loves the little children of the world.
Words: C. Herbert Woolston (1856-1927) Music: George F. Root (1820-1895)
Shinju
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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Quote from: Fanny Mae on November 18, 2009, 09:21:44 AM
Quote from: jill on November 18, 2009, 09:15:39 AM
Quote from: Shinju on November 18, 2009, 09:12:12 AM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on November 17, 2009, 04:48:58 PM
Quote from: Shinju on November 17, 2009, 12:37:18 PM
Quote from: jill on November 17, 2009, 12:32:39 PM
Quote from: Shinju on November 17, 2009, 12:28:29 PM
I have been following this case since the day EO went missing, and have been lurking on the forums since she was found deceased. It truly is a sad outcome, and I hope the poi gets the book thrown at her.
Anyways, does anyone actually think this case will make it to jury if she is certified as an adult?
if a deal is made, at least she will be considered an adult and the info will be released.
If tried as a juvenile, we probably won't hear squat.
I have no idea why they aren't releasing more information. I'm pretty sure that in Missouri they can and sometimes will release the names/details of crime committed by juveniles. And if they can't does anyone know the statute of limitations on a civil suit, lol
I am fairly certain there is plenty of time for a civil suit. Personally, I hope it happens. JMO
I meant so I can sue for them putting my name in the paper when I was middle school lol.
Personally I don't think there should be a civil suit. The family of AB are victims too. IMO
we'll see.
I've read reports from locals that Alyssa's family helped cover up her crime.
Hopefully we'll have facts soon instead of rumors and cover-up.
Yes, there can also be a civil suit, even though there is or is not a criminal trial. I think we have not been able to get as much info on the family because they were enabling Alyssa. JMO
I guess I'm dumb, but I honestly have no clue what you mean by "enabling" her.
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Re: Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 -
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# RT @AlexRozier: Its a possibility the decision on whether to try the 15 year old suspect as an adult may not come today. ^JLR 5 minutes ago from CoTweet
http://twitter.com/KOMUnews
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Shinju
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I have no real reason for being here. I was just saying what I heard. I wasn't trying to cram it down anyone's throat.
I think that if someone did help cover it up the should have the book thrown at them. This is a heinous crime, and anyone involved should get the maximum.
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There are no cell phones, but krcg has 3 reporters in the courtroom, so we'll keep you posted
8 minutes ago from web
http://twitter.com/krcg
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Quote from: trimmonthelake on November 18, 2009, 09:24:05 AM
# RT @AlexRozier: Its a possibility the decision on whether to try the 15 year old suspect as an adult may not come today. ^JLR 5 minutes ago from CoTweet
http://twitter.com/KOMUnews
Thanks, I'm sure the judge won't make a decision today.
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snipped....
Court officials have planned extra security measures for Wednesday's hearing, which is open to the public. Cell phones, laptop computers, tape recorders and cameras all have been banned from the courthouse and those who attend the hearing can't re-enter the courtroom once it has started. Law officers at a security checkpoint in the court basement also will be screening more items.
http://www.kmbc.com/news/21650045/detail.html
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Quote from: Shinju on November 18, 2009, 09:26:37 AM
I have no real reason for being here. I was just saying what I heard. I wasn't trying to cram it down anyone's throat.
I think that if someone did help cover it up the should have the book thrown at them. This is a heinous crime, and anyone involved should get the maximum.
I think that is a pretty good start for a definition of "enabling."
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===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
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=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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=> Natalee Holloway
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