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Blonde
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Fin this one
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Quote from: martini on February 25, 2008, 02:54:54 PM
Who is Shango and Simian? Shango is an insider who has wasted energy, words and powers on not finding Justice for Natalee. Simian has wasted words and energy on misinformation to bring more misinformation to this case. Shango is not a God or mystic. If Shango has any energy left maybe in straight forward terms can enlighten us all, in the meantime I am no longer wasting my time with Shango or Simian's visions.
I think you made the right decision. :roll:MOO
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Thanks Pita! That is what I was looking for.
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Quote from: Finbar on February 25, 2008, 03:43:46 PM
Quote from: bleachedblack on February 24, 2008, 11:21:30 AM
Quote from: COLOMBO on February 23, 2008, 08:21:56 PM
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:55 pm
Why do they leave the Maze open?
Why hasn’t an Arawak probed it’s
fetid depths
.
Tell the Cowboys!
The Arawaks are hiding the path to the Maze for the Babylonians.
Lamb and the Elder are stepping stones into the
fetid pool
of deception.
fetid depths/ fetid pool = corruption
Bleach,
Do you have a map that shows Moko on it? Maybe Blonde has it.
I think it was a little square map.
The Shango/simian riddle mention the three names: Moko, Montanja & Nood.
The lawyer Carlo with PVDS - is that not one of the lawyers for one of the suspects? Antonio?
Fin
Hi Fin.....Carlo is one of Joran's lawyers and now Paulus is a partner....
Freddy's lawyer is Dianne Emerencia..sp....same name as one of the peeps that came and talked to US authorities...didn't find any connection on a search.
vms or Pita will know which guy I mean....
Ooman came up a couple of times in Joran's book and the PV's and it crossed my mind that maybe Paulus got the Kalpoes and Freddy the same lawyer in the beginning. Ooman won't release his case files for the Dr Phil case.
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February 25, 2008, 04:14:43 PM »
Quote from: vms on February 25, 2008, 03:42:07 PM
http://www.facebook.com/s.php?q=Ernesto+Arambatzis&init=q
Thanks, vms!
I'm not a member, so I can't pull up the page. Is it recent???
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Quote from: Finbar on February 25, 2008, 03:43:46 PM
Quote from: bleachedblack on February 24, 2008, 11:21:30 AM
Quote from: COLOMBO on February 23, 2008, 08:21:56 PM
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:55 pm
Why do they leave the Maze open?
Why hasn’t an Arawak probed it’s
fetid depths
.
Tell the Cowboys!
The Arawaks are hiding the path to the Maze for the Babylonians.
Lamb and the Elder are stepping stones into the
fetid pool
of deception.
fetid depths/ fetid pool = corruption
Bleach,
Do you have a map that shows Moko on it? Maybe Blonde has it.
I think it was a little square map.
The Shango/simian riddle mention the three names: Moko, Montanja & Nood.
The lawyer Carlo with PVDS - is that not one of the lawyers for one of the suspects? Antonio?
Fin
http://www.aruba.com/about/vrtour.php
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MumInOhio
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February 25, 2008, 04:20:51 PM »
Quote from: sharon on February 25, 2008, 04:14:43 PM
Quote from: vms on February 25, 2008, 03:42:07 PM
http://www.facebook.com/s.php?q=Ernesto+Arambatzis&init=q
Thanks, vms!
I'm not a member, so I can't pull up the page. Is it recent???
Sorry vms...I meant to reply too...I couldn't either.
Lala's...as soon as I saw that gate I knew it was the one you were looking for!
More googling...LOL
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JE
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Reply #2647 on:
February 25, 2008, 04:23:52 PM »
Quote from: Finbar on February 25, 2008, 03:43:46 PM
Quote from: bleachedblack on February 24, 2008, 11:21:30 AM
Quote from: COLOMBO on February 23, 2008, 08:21:56 PM
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:55 pm
Why do they leave the Maze open?
Why hasn’t an Arawak probed it’s
fetid depths
.
Tell the Cowboys!
The Arawaks are hiding the path to the Maze for the Babylonians.
Lamb and the Elder are stepping stones into the
fetid pool
of deception.
fetid depths/ fetid pool = corruption
Bleach,
Do you have a map that shows Moko on it? Maybe Blonde has it.
I think it was a little square map.
The Shango/simian riddle mention the three names: Moko, Montanja & Nood.
The lawyer Carlo with PVDS - is that not one of the lawyers for one of the suspects? Antonio?
Fin
Antonio Carlo was or is the lawyer for JVDS he also had a meeting with Karen Janssen to talk about his client and to clear his conscience
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sharon
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ERNESTO for lala's
Img Clerk's
File No GRP Doc.
Type Rec.
Date Plat
Book/Page Rec.
Book/Page First Party (Code) Second Party
2005 R 503298 1 FCP 05/17/05 N/A 23382/2564 ARAMBATZIS, ERNESTO (R) STEIN, ARIEL
2007 R 98246 1 FCP 01/29/07 N/A 25317/2088 ARAMBATZIS, ERNESTO (D) SPONSELLER, REBECCA
Ariel Stein -- was the dropped Domestic violence charge. Ariel is a male who is also a 'club promoter' on South Beach. But he didn't work at the VIP clubs (where you are not automatically allowed in)
Rebecca Sponseller is who Ernie divorced
Here's the link
http://www.miami-dadeclerk.com/public-records/searchresult.asp?page=1
If that doesn't work -- go here -- and type Arambatzis
http://www.miami-dadeclerk.com/public-records/pubsearch.asp
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vms
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February 25, 2008, 04:29:08 PM »
Quote from: sharon on February 25, 2008, 04:14:43 PM
Quote from: vms on February 25, 2008, 03:42:07 PM
http://www.facebook.com/s.php?q=Ernesto+Arambatzis&init=q
Thanks, vms!
I'm not a member, so I can't pull up the page. Is it recent???
Sorry, I don't know when it was updated...
MySpace Search
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MumInOhio
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Reply #2650 on:
February 25, 2008, 04:32:45 PM »
Quote from: JE on February 25, 2008, 04:23:52 PM
Quote from: Finbar on February 25, 2008, 03:43:46 PM
Quote from: bleachedblack on February 24, 2008, 11:21:30 AM
Quote from: COLOMBO on February 23, 2008, 08:21:56 PM
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:55 pm
Why do they leave the Maze open?
Why hasn’t an Arawak probed it’s
fetid depths
.
Tell the Cowboys!
The Arawaks are hiding the path to the Maze for the Babylonians.
Lamb and the Elder are stepping stones into the
fetid pool
of deception.
fetid depths/ fetid pool = corruption
Bleach,
Do you have a map that shows Moko on it? Maybe Blonde has it.
I think it was a little square map.
The Shango/simian riddle mention the three names: Moko, Montanja & Nood.
The lawyer Carlo with PVDS - is that not one of the lawyers for one of the suspects? Antonio?
Fin
Antonio Carlo was or is the lawyer for JVDS he also had a meeting with Karen Janssen to talk about his client and to clear his conscience
Also got himself in trouble for talking to one of the security guards....
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sharon
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February 25, 2008, 04:35:56 PM »
An Ernesto oldie
http://www.southbeach-usa.com/columns/news-boy/newsboy55.htm
Another Ernesto oldie -- when he worked at the Delano. I've tried researching his company -- 'brainworks' -- no luck. Also, tried researching some of his 'compadres'.
scary.
http://www.gmcvb.com/visitors/new_in_miami_entertainment.asp
More old Ernesto
http://www.southbeach-usa.com/clubs/misc/stage/stage1.htm
Some old Webshots -- without names -- that I think may include a few of Ernesto
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1511947743080750696AeADiG
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vms
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BRAINWORKS & CO. INC.
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sharon
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February 25, 2008, 04:43:07 PM »
Miami Beach Chamber of Commerce
Tuesday, May 30, 2006
Page 12
Members: Members by Business Class - All Classes
Company Contact Phone Fax
Bars, Lounges & Nightclubs
Beaches Timothy Wilcox (305)672-1910 (305)672-1910
Free Spirits Timothy Wilcox (305)532-5399 (305)532-5399
Liquor Lounge Timothy Wilcox (305)672-7171 (305)672-7171
Mango's Tropical Cafe, Inc. David Wallack (305)673-4422 (305)674-0311
Mynt Ultralounge Ernesto Arambatzis (305)674-9178
Score Billy Kemp (305)535-1111 (305)535-1164
Ted's Hideaway Timothy Wilcox (305)532-9869 (305)532-9869
Tropical Cigars of South Beach Manny Pozo (305)673-3194
Wet Willies David Stachel (305)532-5650 (305)532-5545
The above is from a PDF of the Miami Beach Chamber of Commerce as of May 2006.
Grande had mentioned that he called Mynt and was told Ernesto no longer worked there??
Interesting -- the link is gone. But I had saved the .pdf?
Info on Ernesto has been 'scarce' since then -- other than the court doc from his divorce in 01/07.
.
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vms
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February 25, 2008, 04:45:42 PM »
Quote from: sharon on February 25, 2008, 04:43:07 PM
Miami Beach Chamber of Commerce
Tuesday, May 30, 2006
Page 12
Members: Members by Business Class - All Classes
Company Contact Phone Fax
Bars, Lounges & Nightclubs
Beaches Timothy Wilcox (305)672-1910 (305)672-1910
Free Spirits Timothy Wilcox (305)532-5399 (305)532-5399
Liquor Lounge Timothy Wilcox (305)672-7171 (305)672-7171
Mango's Tropical Cafe, Inc. David Wallack (305)673-4422 (305)674-0311
Mynt Ultralounge Ernesto Arambatzis (305)674-9178
Score Billy Kemp (305)535-1111 (305)535-1164
Ted's Hideaway Timothy Wilcox (305)532-9869 (305)532-9869
Tropical Cigars of South Beach Manny Pozo (305)673-3194
Wet Willies David Stachel (305)532-5650 (305)532-5545
The above is from a PDF of the Miami Beach Chamber of Commerce as of May 2006.
Grande had mentioned that he called Mynt and was told Ernesto no longer worked there??
Interesting -- the link is gone. But I had saved the .pdf?
Info on Ernesto has been 'scarce' since then -- other than the court doc from his divorce in 01/07.
.
www.miamibeachchamber.com/pdfs/cwr_membyclassallcls010306.pdf
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sharon
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Reply #2655 on:
February 25, 2008, 04:56:40 PM »
Quote from: vms on February 25, 2008, 04:29:08 PM
Quote from: sharon on February 25, 2008, 04:14:43 PM
Quote from: vms on February 25, 2008, 03:42:07 PM
http://www.facebook.com/s.php?q=Ernesto+Arambatzis&init=q
Thanks, vms!
I'm not a member, so I can't pull up the page. Is it recent???
Sorry, I don't know when it was updated...
MySpace Search
Thanks, vms.
The first 2 definitely could be Ernesto.
The second 2 are from a 22 year old in Miami, Kansas
Both of the 'potential' Ernesto's have not updated since Sept -- Oct 2006 -- right about when Ernesto 'disappeared'?
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vms
I can't keep up with you
http://i7.tinypic.com/21b6wbq.jpg
I think Grande posted this - a pic of Ernesto and his domestic violence charge.
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Quote from: sharon on February 25, 2008, 04:59:48 PM
vms
I can't keep up with you
http://i7.tinypic.com/21b6wbq.jpg
I think Grande posted this - a pic of Ernesto and his domestic violence charge.
Lol, Sharon.
We worked together on Ernesto many moons ago.
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Lala'sMom
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Quote from: sharon on February 25, 2008, 04:27:47 PM
ERNESTO for lala's
Img Clerk's
File No GRP Doc.
Type Rec.
Date Plat
Book/Page Rec.
Book/Page First Party (Code) Second Party
2005 R 503298 1 FCP 05/17/05 N/A 23382/2564 ARAMBATZIS, ERNESTO (R) STEIN, ARIEL
2007 R 98246 1 FCP 01/29/07 N/A 25317/2088 ARAMBATZIS, ERNESTO (D) SPONSELLER, REBECCA
Ariel Stein -- was the dropped Domestic violence charge. Ariel is a male who is also a 'club promoter' on South Beach. But he didn't work at the VIP clubs (where you are not automatically allowed in)
Rebecca Sponseller is who Ernie divorced
Here's the link
http://www.miami-dadeclerk.com/public-records/searchresult.asp?page=1
If that doesn't work -- go here -- and type Arambatzis
http://www.miami-dadeclerk.com/public-records/pubsearch.asp
Thanks Sharon.
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So Freddy is Dirty????
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===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
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=> The Monkey Lounge
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=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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